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Saturday, September 6, 2008
Democratic Trash: The Story That Just Won't Go Away
Democratic Trash: The Story That Just Won't Go Away 
A note from Radarsite: This is fascinating. As happened before with the Hillary Forum, Radarsite started getting an inordinate amount of hits from an Obama camp website. So we looked into it. If anyone is interested in the differences between the Clinton Dems and the Obama Camp just read these comments, lifted directly from Democratic Underground and compare them with the Clinton Dems responses from The Hillary Clinton Forum reported here in an earlier Radarsite article. Whereas the general consensus from the comments thread at the Hillary Forum was one of surprisingly sincere regret and honest acceptance of responsibility for what had become a major political gaff, the Obama people are merely angry and defensive. Very angry and very defensive. Almost immediately the conspiracy theorists got to work. No acceptance of responsibility whatsoever. Just angry backlashes at everyone but themselves.
Till now, I must confess, I hadn't really appreciated the differences between these two Democratic factions. But I certainly do now. As much as I disagree with their candidate's vision of America and where they would want to bring this country, the Hillary Dems seem to have exhibited a strong sense of sincerity and humanity. They have stepped up to the plate and accepted responsibility for what has turned out to be a major strategic blunder -- even though it was more the responsibility of the Obama Camp to control the images that came out of that Obama Celebration.
And how do the Obama people react to their own revealing anti-patriotic blunders? They react with viciousness and anger. They call on their attack dogs to do their work. Cynical, manipulative, their only concern is in discrediting the source. No responsibility. No embarrassment. No concern for how their obvious disregard for patriotism may look to the average American.
To me, this whole episode has been an education. This is what an Obama Presidency would offer. A Democratic redux of the Nixon years, with all of that petty hatred and viciousness, and with a whole new Enemies' List. This, my friends, is a clear and unadulterated view of the Obama Camp, and it is both enlightening and disgusting. Read their comments and decide for yourselves. We have deleted the commenters identities. - rg
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From the Democratic Underground
***LET'S GET TO WORK ON THIS FLAG THING NOW***
"We need to press the meme that the McCain campaign STOLE the flags."
Here's the article from Puke News:
John McCain’s campaign prepared to accuse Democrats on Saturday of leaving behind 12,000 miniature American flags after Barack Obama’s nomination acceptance speech last Thursday in Denver.Boy Scouts have arrived with 84 trash bags full of bundles of flags at the site of a McCain rally scheduled to begin at 12:30 p.m. local time in Colorado Springs.The campaign says the flags were recovered from Invesco Field after the Democrats concluded their convention there, and they are going to be used as part of the warm-up ceremonies before McCain takes the stage for the rally.FOX News has been told a vendor at Invesco Field found the flags, which were going to be thrown out, and turned them over to the McCain campaign.Notice anything strange here?
12,000 miniature American flags
84 trash bags full of bundles of flags
a vendor at Invesco Field found the flagsThese flags were meant to go somehwere--and not to some dumpster. Did this "vendor" steal them for political purposes
So, its up to the vendor to distribute and clean up? Then that is his job..
Sep-06-08 02:30 PM
#1
Ah, but here's the catch...
Sep-06-08 02:32 PM
#2
McCain is running soooo low on funds, they have to steal American Flags from Obama?
Sep-06-08 02:35 PM
#7
Could be, and if they were intended for the trash, why spend all of the time rolling them up!!
Sep-06-08 02:46 PM
#28
utter crap
Sep-06-08 02:32 PM
Repukes cannot differentiate between symbolic and real .... delusional nt
Sep-06-08 02:51 PM
#37
Any meaningless issue will do for them, as long as it distracts from real issues. They need to be
Sep-06-08 02:32 PM
#4
EXACTLY! n/t
Sep-06-08 02:32 PM
#6
Exactly.
Sep-06-08 02:37 PM
#11
THey were neatly rolled up and stacked in the bags.
Sep-06-08 02:32 PM
#5
And here they are...
Sep-06-08 02:36 PM
#8
Look STOLEN to me
Sep-06-08 02:39 PM
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That can't be right! Those are NOT miniature flags! n/t
Sep-06-08 02:45 PM
#22
Actually, it looks like a manufactured prop, if you ask me.
Sep-06-08 02:47 PM
#29
Do those look like the same size flags as at the DNC?
Sep-06-08 02:58 PM
#47
You're right...
Sep-06-08 03:01 PM
#52
Why else? To smear Democratic conventioneers. n/t
Sep-06-08 03:03 PM
#55
Yeah, and look at the booth to the left at the top...
Sep-06-08 03:20 PM
#69
Jesus Christ.
Sep-06-08 02:37 PM
#9
Because we all know they wouldn't use this against us...
Sep-06-08 02:39 PM
#12
My point is; so fucking what!
Sep-06-08 02:42 PM
#17
Look, I agree, it SHOULD be about the issues...
Sep-06-08 02:48 PM
#33
Because, as has been pointed out thousands of times,
Sep-06-08 03:16 PM
#65
You're absolutely right
Sep-06-08 02:55 PM
#44
If the flags were neatly rolled in bags, maybe they were stolen. nt
Sep-06-08 02:37 PM
#10
This story should be sent to KO's people to debunk.
Sep-06-08 02:39 PM
#13
Sounds like theft
Sep-06-08 02:41 PM
#14
I smell operatives...
Sep-06-08 02:42 PM
#15
are you one of them?
Sep-06-08 02:45 PM
#21
Go back and read some of my stuff...
Sep-06-08 02:50 PM
#35
ok well this is a stupid story
Sep-06-08 02:55 PM
#43
Perhaps...
Sep-06-08 03:06 PM
#57
My take on this
Sep-06-08 02:42 PM
#16
this stuff works and repubs would rather win that be nice so they do it nt
Sep-06-08 02:44 PM
#19
BINGO.
Sep-06-08 02:44 PM
#20
Patriotism doesn't come in a fucking trash bag.
Sep-06-08 02:46 PM
#24
"since when is how you treat the FLAG more important than how you treat the AMERICAN PEOPLE?"
Sep-06-08 02:46 PM
#27
I checked to see how small flags are packed.
Sep-06-08 02:43 PM
#18
new thread: the pukes owe us 15, 120 for stealing our flags!
Sep-06-08 02:46 PM
#26
CNN said the DNC says the flag story is a lie.
Sep-06-08 02:45 PM
#23
sounds like the kind of tricks Rove used to do
Sep-06-08 02:46 PM
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DNC announced ahead of time that they were pushing recycling
Sep-06-8 02:46 PM
#25
new question for pukes: why do you hate recycling? nt
Sep-06-08 02:47 PM
#30
Huh?
Sep-06-08 02:47 PM
#31
I just thought of something else
Sep-06-08 02:48 PM
#32
DRUDGEREPORT.com is pushing this crap too nt
Sep-06-08 02:49 PM
#34
They've been talking about it since Aug 30
Sep-06-08 02:50 PM
#36
Welcome to DU!
Sep-06-08 02:52 PM
#39
You left of the "ng".
Sep-06-08 02:54 PM
#40
ng
Sep-06-08 02:56 PM
#45
That site appears to have a racist bent... n/t
Sep-06-08 02:54 PM
#41
I didn't go to it..
Sep-06-08 03:05 PM
#56
I like to check people like our dear Lemmi's sources.
Sep-06-08 03:09 PM
#58
Nah...LOL
Sep-06-08 03:17 PM
#66
found on radarsite: "stop the ACLU"
Sep-06-08 03:15 PM
#63
Probably
Sep-06-08 02:51 PM
#38
CNN reported that the DNC planned to ship the flags for use at other events.
Sep-06-08 02:55 PM
#42
So then they were stolen. n/t
Sep-06-08 02:57 PM
#46
And they should also say they were lifted by dirty tricksters
Sep-06-08 02:58 PM
#48
Let's remember Fox had a booth there too..
Sep-06-08 03:19 PM
#68
So they were stolen?
Sep-06-08 03:01 PM
#50
I knew it
Sep-06-08 03:01 PM
#53
I'm surprised that they aren't claiming some fetuses were thrown out with the...
Sep-06-08 03:01 PM
#49
they want to talk trash bags?
Sep-06-08 03:01 PM
#51
Classic GOP Ratfuck.
Sep-06-08 03:03 PM
#54
That was very well done and a great read.
JeffreyWilliamson
Sep-06-08 03:11 PM
#60
Thank you very much. It's important we educate the younger folks...
Sep-06-08 03:13 PM
#61
Maybe from the set? Which means they were packed to be shipped
EC
Sep-06-08 03:10 PM
#59
We need to press the meme that the McCain campaign STOLE the flags. n/t
Sep-06-08 03:14 PM
#62
Yup...
Sep-06-08 03:16 PM
#64
yesh! they got us!?
Sep-06-08 03:18 PM
#67
The DNC should report the flags as "stolen property"...
Sep-06-08 03:22 PM
#70
Thought about that...
Sep-06-08 03:26 PM
#72
I Knew This Had the Smell of "Democrats Trashed the White House" When Clinton Moved Out
Sep-06-08 03:24 PM
#71
1. So, its up to the vendor to distribute and clean up? Then that is his job..
So, why did the vendor throw them in the trash? Is he the Un-American one?
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8:10 PM
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The Feminist and The Fauxminists
A cruel person would enjoy watching alleged feminists, hereafter referred to as fauxminists, endure prolonged spasms of apoplexy as Sarah Palin continues her march right over their illogical assertions about why she doesn't really represent them.
The main thing separating Sarah Palin from the fauxminist ideal is that she has been able to accomplish their dream with greater success and without a shitty hairdo.
It is time for these caterwauling pro-choice maniacs to exercise their right to choose to shut the hell up.
Most galling are the comparisons between "Good Bitch Hillary" and Gov. Palin. Hint to the ladies: you might want to focus on the woman who didn't need to let a man crap all over her to get where she is. Just sayin'.
The Wall Street Journal is the last major American newspaper that one doesn't have to travel to Barack Obama's backside to read. As such, while covering Sarah Palin this week the paper has offered forth that rarest of all finds in the American press: some actual journalism. Even its Opinion pieces seem more like real reporting than what we've seen above the fold from the major newspapers this week.
The rambling nature of my A.D.D. riddled brain doesn't allow for me to be succinct. Here's a paragraph from this article that explains what I have been saying for the past few days:
"Sarah Palin has put the flim-flam nature of America feminism sharply into focus, revealing the not-so-secret hypocrisy of its code and, whatever her future, this alone is an accomplishment. As she emerged into the nation's consciousness, a shudder went through the feminist left-a political movement not restricted to females. She is a mother refusing to stay at home (good) who had made a success out in the workplace (excellent) whose marriage nevertheless is a rip-roaring success and whose views are unspeakable-those of a red-blooded, right-wing principled pragmatist."
I could never pull off using a phrase like "flim-flam".
As the above quote indicates, left-leaning men have subscribed to the feminist ideal for years.
So...
It's interesting that the McCain campaign features some female CEOs and a female VP candidate. The Democratic ticket has a couple of dudes and a vanquished token. You can see why the fauxminists are mad, can't you?
There's a palpable fear being exhibited by the women who have largely been treating feminism like a fashionable fetish now that a real woman has shown up and done all that they've wanted to do. That their first instinct is to tear her apart is very telling about just how deep their convictions are.
It is impossible to open a world of possibilities by narrowly defining what the achievement of those possibilities is. Saying "You can have whatever you want as long as you're exactly like me..." isn't exactly the path to a dream.
The feminist movement in America lost the largest part of its credibility when it embraced Bill and Hillary Clinton. Singularly focused on abortion, it ignored the fact that Bill was a sexual predator and celebrated Hillary acting like a spineless pushover to achieve her goals. Hillary Clinton, feminist icon, would have gotten absolutely nowhere without her husband.
Ah...there's the rub.
Sarah Palin didn't use her husband's money, position or permission to get where she is.
It's the exposition of tokenism vs. merit that has the Feminist Left up in arms. Gov. Palin earned her position without quotas or a man paving her way. She earned it by working hard and being Sarah Palin.
That doesn't resonate with people who believe that government intervention trumps individual accomplishment.
Don't know about you but I look forward to watching the Woman Who Has Done It go up against the Women Who Have Talked About It. Sphere: Related Content
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11:47 AM
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Roy Rogers and the Crying Indian: The White Man's Legacy
When I was a kid -- (here we go again, an old timer reminisces) -- When I was a kid you could get into the Saturday afternoon double feature at the local movie theater for fourteen cents. And you could watch two new movies, a travelogue, two or three cartoons, a newsreel, a comedy serial, and if you were lucky enough, you could get to see a new Roy Rogers Western. At least once a month, Roy would be fighting off Wild Indians (those two words were inseparable in those days). And sometimes he'd be on his valiant horse Trigger (a kind of four-legged good guy), galloping across the badlands in a cloud of dust, pursued by two dozen or so Wild Indians, and he'd turn around and get off one shot from his trusty silver-plated six-shooter and three Wild Indians would immediately fall off their mounts, deader than a doornail. And we never questioned the logic behind this implausible scenario because he was the good guy and the Wild Indians were the bad guys, and the good guys had special powers that the bad guys didn't have. This was why we were going to win the war, because we were the good guys and the good guys always win.
Now, I know how simplistic and foolish this all sounds -- good guys, bad guys -- but then again, we, the good guys, did actually win the war, and the bad guys did actually lose the war. And before we're all too quick to dismiss this whole ridiculous paradigm it might be worth remembering that -- as I pointed out in an earlier article -- two historians of the caliber of Sir John Keegan and Professor Gerhard Weinberg both agreed unequivocally with the characterization of WWII as being a battle between Good and Evil, a war which the Good ultimately won. So perhaps there was something cogent about this simplistic paradigm after all. Perhaps --
When I was a kid things were simpler. Notice, I didn't say they were better -- that probably comes under the heading of a personal subjective opinion. But I doubt if anyone would argue that things were not simpler then. Bad was bad and good was good. It was always pretty obvious who the good guys were -- most of them looked like us, or at least the way we imagined that we might look someday when we got older. And the bad guys mostly didn't look like us. They looked like Wild Indians or Savage Zulu warriors or Space Monsters or especially Japs. And even if they did look like us, somehow they looked meaner and less trustworthy. Anyway, you could always tell who they were. And -- now here comes the really controversial part -- the good guys were almost invariably white guys. I'm sorry, that's just the way it was. Sometimes they might be old white guys, like Gabby Hayes, or sometimes (but pretty rarely) they could be colored guys, and sometimes they could even be recently-converted Wild Indians, like the Lone Ranger's loyal sidekick, Tonto. But, chances are, some white guy was probably in charge.
Then came those fateful cultural upheavals of the Self-Righteous Sixties and everything changed. Now, the surest way to alienate that good-looking brunette you were talking to at that Saturday night party was to say something -- actually, say anything -- at all derogatory about American Indians or colored guys. It would have had about the same effect as saying something derogatory about our fathers and brothers in uniform during that great war two decades earlier. The tables had turned and you'd better be careful now about what you were saying and who you were saying it about. The good guys weren't necessarily the white guys anymore. In fact, the chances were pretty good that the white guys were now the bad guys and those other guys were now the good guys. There was a different take on that same old scenario. Now, the Indian (no longer stuck with that unpleasant modifier, 'Wild') was being chased by two dozen white calvary soldiers, and he'd turn around and get off one shot with his bow and arrow and immediately three white calvary soldiers would fall off their mounts, deader than a doornail.
It's damn near impossible to talk about white people's accomplishments nowadays, isn't it? It is permissible, however, even commendable to honor and celebrate the achievements and the accomplishments of almost any race but the white race. Why? Because we are the bad guys now. We were all wrong back then, we had it all backwards. We only thought we were the good guys.
In one of television's most successful Public Service commercials, "Keep America Beautiful", a sorrowful Chief Iron Eyes Cody became the conscience of America, when he silently shed that now-famous tear in 1971 for the lost beauty of our great country, which we had thoughtlessly besmirched with our incessant and irresponsible littering. We had stolen his land and then we abused it. We believed him, too, because he had become a good guy now, the very personification of nobility and honor, reminding us new bad guys of all our many, many failures and sins.
Two years later, on March 27, 1973, Marlon Brando won the Academy Award for Best Actor for his unforgettable leading role in The Godfather. Although Brando won, he famously declined the award and boycotted the award ceremony, sending Native American Rights activist Sacheen Littlefeather in his place. Sacheen stated Brando's reasons: Brando objected to the depiction of Native Americans by Hollywood. Thus, by declining this prestigious award, Marlon Brando had defined himself as a good guy -- a white guy, but a good white guy who had seen the light and was publicly repentant. And this is what it meant now to be a good white guy, to proudly wear your Crown of Thorns and loudly proclaim your guilt to Mankind. We're sorry, World. Your reparation checks are in the mail.
Of course, there are still those occasional voices of dissent. Here's one now:
We of European descent need no instruction in those things higher from outsiders. We, who gave birth to Dante, Shakespeare, Leonardo, Plato, Newton, Mozart. We, who alone can perceive the Good, the True, and the Beautiful. How dare they!This is the voice of white pride. Not the shrill threatening voice of the crazy white supremacist, or the loony eugenicist, but the angry voice of a frustrated but rational human being, one of those few unrepentant white guys who are not quite ready yet to shuffle apologetically off the stage, still in the costume of the cold-hearted villain of this play.
They, who depend upon the genius, magnanimity, and nobility of our beautiful people. They, whom without us would lose everything that make life worth living in this world. They, who would see us exterminated. What words?!?
But for the White man's agricultural genius there are literally billions of third-worlders who would not be breathing at this instant.*
And so the world has moved on and you can't get into a movie for fourteen cents anymore, not even to a Saturday matinee. And the chances are pretty good that the bad guys are all white guys now, and most likely work for the United States Government. Marlon Brando, whose real name was Marlon Brando, Jr. passed away in 2004. And those two original protagonists in this classic duel between the selfish imperialistic white man and the noble, more morally advanced savage are gone now, too. Roy Rogers, whose real name was Leonard Franklin Slye, who was born in Cincinnati, Ohio, rode off into the sunset in June of 1998; just six months later his erstwhile symbolic nemesis, Chief Iron Eyes Cody, who was in reality a Sicilian by the name of Espera di Corti, died peacefully in his sleep at his home in California.
But us white folks are still here and, despite all the rumors to the contrary, still strong and proud, neither arrogant nor apologetic. Still trying to sort out the meanings of those old scenarios; sifting through the ashes of our shared histories, searching for the truths of our separate but inextricably entangled stories. And so it goes.
*Quote from comments by Captian Chaos to article in Maggie's Notebook. Sphere: Related Content
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12:58 AM
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Friday, September 5, 2008
Justice for Princess
We all wonder what is the results of weak parenting and PC madness. We see children who should have a conscience turn into monsters due to the above. I thought I had heard or read every imaginable profanity that these monsters could do. I have heard of girls throwing their children into the trash, cooking them in the microwave to get back the child's father, shooting paintballs at unsuspecting bystanders, but the following is one of the worst I've read.
Imagine you and your family going away on vacation during Christmas. Perhaps you are visiting family or the whole clan is having a special family reunion at a resort. You have had a wonderful holiday and return home to discover this.
5 hooligans break into your home. They punch holes in the walls, guitars were smashed, and a television was destroyed. The rampage lasted 2 nights. The group had a great time. $10,000 in damages were done. But these monsters didn't just do this. They had the audacity to go one step further.
These monsters really knew how to party. And what did the nice people in Alberta do to these monsters?But the most disturbing crime was described in a felt-pen scrawl on the kitchen window and cabinets: “You had a nice cat” and “it's in the microwave.”
Inside was the family's pet, Princess.
“The cat was screaming in the microwave for 10 minutes while it was essentially cooked to death,” said Crown prosecutor John Laluk.
“What makes it worse is they not only tortured the cat, but they wanted to torture the family. This was a deliberate attempt to inflict pain on the homeowners.”
Two 16-year-old Alberta boys who admitted to breaking into a neighbour's house, putting the family cat in a microwave and then watching it cook to death have been sentenced to one year of probation and 100 hours of community service.A slap on the wrist. Why not send them to bed without their dinner? And what do the parents say? Do they hold their heads in shame and weep for what their sons did? No.Youth court Judge Shauna Miller also banned the pair from owning pets for two years, which means one of the teen's family will have to give up a dog they purchased just 10 months ago.
Wrong again! Good kids don't do these things. Animals do.Chris Millsap, the other defense lawyer, described his client as a gifted musician who plays in the church band.
“There's no explanation ... for such a heinous crime,” said Mr. Millsap. “He's a very good kid who did something very wrong.”
These monsters got off, they said their sorry and the judge let them go. But the owners of Princess will mourn their kitty's loss forever. And justice. Well she was no where in sight today. Maybe tomorrow, but not as long as PC rules the day. Sphere: Related Content
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11:21 PM
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