MBVD: Democratic Trash: The Story That Just Won't Go Away

Saturday, September 6, 2008

Democratic Trash: The Story That Just Won't Go Away

Democratic Trash: The Story That Just Won't Go Away

A note from Radarsite: This is fascinating. As happened before with the Hillary Forum, Radarsite started getting an inordinate amount of hits from an Obama camp website. So we looked into it. If anyone is interested in the differences between the Clinton Dems and the Obama Camp just read these comments, lifted directly from Democratic Underground and compare them with the Clinton Dems responses from The Hillary Clinton Forum reported here in an earlier Radarsite article. Whereas the general consensus from the comments thread at the Hillary Forum was one of surprisingly sincere regret and honest acceptance of responsibility for what had become a major political gaff, the Obama people are merely angry and defensive. Very angry and very defensive. Almost immediately the conspiracy theorists got to work. No acceptance of responsibility whatsoever. Just angry backlashes at everyone but themselves.
Till now, I must confess, I hadn't really appreciated the differences between these two Democratic factions. But I certainly do now. As much as I disagree with their candidate's vision of America and where they would want to bring this country, the Hillary Dems seem to have exhibited a strong sense of sincerity and humanity. They have stepped up to the plate and accepted responsibility for what has turned out to be a major strategic blunder -- even though it was more the responsibility of the Obama Camp to control the images that came out of that Obama Celebration.
And how do the Obama people react to their own revealing anti-patriotic blunders? They react with viciousness and anger. They call on their attack dogs to do their work. Cynical, manipulative, their only concern is in discrediting the source. No responsibility. No embarrassment. No concern for how their obvious disregard for patriotism may look to the average American.
To me, this whole episode has been an education. This is what an Obama Presidency would offer. A Democratic redux of the Nixon years, with all of that petty hatred and viciousness, and with a whole new Enemies' List. This, my friends, is a clear and unadulterated view of the Obama Camp, and it is both enlightening and disgusting. Read their comments and decide for yourselves. We have deleted the commenters identities. - rg

-------------------------------------------------------------------------

From the Democratic Underground

***LET'S GET TO WORK ON THIS FLAG THING NOW***

"We need to press the meme that the McCain campaign STOLE the flags."

Here's the article from Puke News:
John McCain’s campaign prepared to accuse Democrats on Saturday of leaving behind 12,000 miniature American flags after Barack Obama’s nomination acceptance speech last Thursday in Denver.Boy Scouts have arrived with 84 trash bags full of bundles of flags at the site of a McCain rally scheduled to begin at 12:30 p.m. local time in Colorado Springs.The campaign says the flags were recovered from Invesco Field after the Democrats concluded their convention there, and they are going to be used as part of the warm-up ceremonies before McCain takes the stage for the rally.FOX News has been told a vendor at Invesco Field found the flags, which were going to be thrown out, and turned them over to the McCain campaign.Notice anything strange here?
12,000 miniature American flags
84 trash bags full of bundles of flags
a vendor at Invesco Field found the flagsThese flags were meant to go somehwere--and not to some dumpster. Did this "vendor" steal them for political purposes

So, its up to the vendor to distribute and clean up? Then that is his job..
Sep-06-08 02:30 PM
#1
Ah, but here's the catch...
Sep-06-08 02:32 PM
#2
McCain is running soooo low on funds, they have to steal American Flags from Obama?
Sep-06-08 02:35 PM
#7
Could be, and if they were intended for the trash, why spend all of the time rolling them up!!
Sep-06-08 02:46 PM
#28
utter crap
Sep-06-08 02:32 PM
Repukes cannot differentiate between symbolic and real .... delusional nt
Sep-06-08 02:51 PM
#37
Any meaningless issue will do for them, as long as it distracts from real issues. They need to be
Sep-06-08 02:32 PM
#4
EXACTLY! n/t
Sep-06-08 02:32 PM
#6
Exactly.
Sep-06-08 02:37 PM
#11
THey were neatly rolled up and stacked in the bags.
Sep-06-08 02:32 PM
#5
And here they are...
Sep-06-08 02:36 PM
#8
Look STOLEN to me
Sep-06-08 02:39 PM
#
That can't be right! Those are NOT miniature flags! n/t
Sep-06-08 02:45 PM
#22
Actually, it looks like a manufactured prop, if you ask me.
Sep-06-08 02:47 PM
#29
Do those look like the same size flags as at the DNC?
Sep-06-08 02:58 PM
#47
You're right...
Sep-06-08 03:01 PM
#52
Why else? To smear Democratic conventioneers. n/t
Sep-06-08 03:03 PM
#55
Yeah, and look at the booth to the left at the top...
Sep-06-08 03:20 PM
#69
Jesus Christ.
Sep-06-08 02:37 PM
#9
Because we all know they wouldn't use this against us...
Sep-06-08 02:39 PM
#12
My point is; so fucking what!
Sep-06-08 02:42 PM
#17
Look, I agree, it SHOULD be about the issues...
Sep-06-08 02:48 PM
#33
Because, as has been pointed out thousands of times,
Sep-06-08 03:16 PM
#65
You're absolutely right
Sep-06-08 02:55 PM
#44
If the flags were neatly rolled in bags, maybe they were stolen. nt

Sep-06-08 02:37 PM
#10
This story should be sent to KO's people to debunk.
Sep-06-08 02:39 PM
#13
Sounds like theft
Sep-06-08 02:41 PM
#14
I smell operatives...

Sep-06-08 02:42 PM
#15
are you one of them?
Sep-06-08 02:45 PM
#21
Go back and read some of my stuff...
Sep-06-08 02:50 PM
#35
ok well this is a stupid story
Sep-06-08 02:55 PM
#43
Perhaps...
Sep-06-08 03:06 PM
#57
My take on this
Sep-06-08 02:42 PM
#16
this stuff works and repubs would rather win that be nice so they do it nt
Sep-06-08 02:44 PM
#19
BINGO.
Sep-06-08 02:44 PM
#20
Patriotism doesn't come in a fucking trash bag.
Sep-06-08 02:46 PM
#24
"since when is how you treat the FLAG more important than how you treat the AMERICAN PEOPLE?"
Sep-06-08 02:46 PM
#27
I checked to see how small flags are packed.
Sep-06-08 02:43 PM
#18
new thread: the pukes owe us 15, 120 for stealing our flags!
Sep-06-08 02:46 PM
#26
CNN said the DNC says the flag story is a lie.

Sep-06-08 02:45 PM
#23
sounds like the kind of tricks Rove used to do
Sep-06-08 02:46 PM
#
DNC announced ahead of time that they were pushing recycling
Sep-06-8 02:46 PM
#25
new question for pukes: why do you hate recycling? nt
Sep-06-08 02:47 PM
#30
Huh?
Sep-06-08 02:47 PM
#31
I just thought of something else
Sep-06-08 02:48 PM
#32
DRUDGEREPORT.com is pushing this crap too nt
Sep-06-08 02:49 PM
#34
They've been talking about it since Aug 30
Sep-06-08 02:50 PM
#36
Welcome to DU!
Sep-06-08 02:52 PM
#39
You left of the "ng".
Sep-06-08 02:54 PM
#40
ng
Sep-06-08 02:56 PM
#45
That site appears to have a racist bent... n/t
Sep-06-08 02:54 PM
#41
I didn't go to it..
Sep-06-08 03:05 PM
#56
I like to check people like our dear Lemmi's sources.
Sep-06-08 03:09 PM
#58
Nah...LOL
Sep-06-08 03:17 PM
#66
found on radarsite: "stop the ACLU"
Sep-06-08 03:15 PM
#63
Probably
Sep-06-08 02:51 PM
#38
CNN reported that the DNC planned to ship the flags for use at other events.
Sep-06-08 02:55 PM
#42
So then they were stolen. n/t
Sep-06-08 02:57 PM
#46
And they should also say they were lifted by dirty tricksters
Sep-06-08 02:58 PM
#48
Let's remember Fox had a booth there too..
Sep-06-08 03:19 PM
#68
So they were stolen?
Sep-06-08 03:01 PM
#50
I knew it
Sep-06-08 03:01 PM
#53
I'm surprised that they aren't claiming some fetuses were thrown out with the...
Sep-06-08 03:01 PM
#49
they want to talk trash bags?
Sep-06-08 03:01 PM
#51
Classic GOP Ratfuck.
Sep-06-08 03:03 PM
#54
That was very well done and a great read.
JeffreyWilliamson
Sep-06-08 03:11 PM
#60
Thank you very much. It's important we educate the younger folks...

Sep-06-08 03:13 PM
#61
Maybe from the set? Which means they were packed to be shipped
EC
Sep-06-08 03:10 PM
#59
We need to press the meme that the McCain campaign STOLE the flags. n/t
Sep-06-08 03:14 PM
#62
Yup...
Sep-06-08 03:16 PM
#64
yesh! they got us!?
Sep-06-08 03:18 PM
#67
The DNC should report the flags as "stolen property"...
Sep-06-08 03:22 PM
#70
Thought about that...
Sep-06-08 03:26 PM
#72
I Knew This Had the Smell of "Democrats Trashed the White House" When Clinton Moved Out
Sep-06-08 03:24 PM
#71
1. So, its up to the vendor to distribute and clean up? Then that is his job..
So, why did the vendor throw them in the trash? Is he the Un-American one?

Sphere: Related Content

Subscribe to: Comment Feed (RSS)

SOLDIER"S ANGELS NEEDS YOUR HELP!

The Veterans Hospital in Tucson needs our help!!! They have contacted Soldiers' Angels with a list of needs for their patients. Soldiers Angels needs your help in making some of these come true.

Below you will find just a small portion of needs that are immediate. You can also find this list posted on the Soldiers Angels Forum at www.soldiersangelsforum.com you will be able to find lots of great information there for our deployed and vets.

If you are sending a monetary donation please follow the link and indicate the State you are in.

Donate here;
Ttp://soldiersangels.org/index.php?page=veterans-support

COMFORT ITEMS- $350/MO
Dry Skin Cream
Slipper Socks-No skid
Catheter bag covers
Shaving Cream
Hand Lotion
Baby Shampoo
Hand Soap
Roll on/Spray Deodorant
Denture Cleaner
Underwear (men and women (all sizes)
Toothbrushes
Denture Grip
Socks (white)
Talcum Powder
Nail Clippers
Toothpaste
Ladies hand and body lotion
Backpacks
Disposable Razors
Comb/Brushes
Shawls
Shaving Cream/small
Knitted Caps
Travel Alarm Clocks
Ball Caps
Tote Bags
Shower Shoes
Pocket Size Needle and Thread Kit
Heart pillows for cardiac patients
Lap Robes (3x5 or 5x7)

GUEST SERVICES
30 cup coffee makers
Coffee supplies (reg. & decaf)
Music CDs
Stamps
Writing Paper and Envelopes
Prepaid Phone Cards for patients’

RECREATION
Puzzle books
Crossword Puzzles
Pencils
Video tapes & DVDs (movies, educational)
DVD Player

Sports equipment (basketball, tennis rackets &
Tickets for entertainment & sporting events
Balls, badminton set, Frisbees, football)

If you can send just one item that would be great!!! If each person sends one thing we will make a difference! They are also needing those who can volunteer time at the hospital just contact the Voluntary Services Dept. For information.

Mail Items to:

Department of Veterans Affairs Southern Arizona VA Health Care System – Voluntary Services 9-135, 3601 S. Sixth Avenue, Tucson, AZ 85723

PLEASE HELP US HELP THOSE WHO FOUGHT FOR OUR FREEDOM!

My Favorite Speeches and Other Items of Interest

George Bush's March 28, 2007 Discusses Economy, War on Terror During Remarks to the National Cattlemen's Beef Association;http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2007/03/20070328-2.html
Mitch McConnell's March 15, 2007 Funding For Troops, Not Timelines for Retreat; http://mcconnell.senate.gov/record.cfm?id=270747&start=1
Ronald Reagan's June 12, 1987 Tear Down This Wall Speech; http://www.reaganfoundation.org/reagan/speeches/wall.asp
Vice President Cheney's March 12, 2007 Remarks at the AIPAC 2007 Policy Conference; http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2007/03/20070312.html

Winston Churchill Quotes

A prisoner of war is a man who tries to kill you and fails, and then asks you not to kill him.
Although personally I am quite content with existing explosives, I feel we must not stand in the path of improvement.
Although prepared for martyrdom, I preferred that it be postponed.
Attitude is a little thing that makes a big difference.
Battles are won by slaughter and maneuver. The greater the general, the more he contributes in maneuver, the less he demands in slaughter.
Danger - if you meet it promptly and without flinching - you will reduce the danger by half. Never run away from anything. Never!
I always seem to get inspiration and renewed vitality by contact with this great novel land of yours which sticks up out of the Atlantic.
I am an optimist. It does not seem too much use being anything else.
I have nothing to offer but blood, toil, tears and sweat.
I like a man who grins when he fights.
I was only the servant of my country and had I, at any moment, failed to express her unflinching resolve to fight and conquer, I should at once have been rightly cast aside.
If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time-a tremendous whack.
In war as in life, it is often necessary when some cherished scheme has failed, to take up the best alternative open, and if so, it is folly not to work for it with all your might.
It is no use saying, 'We are doing our best.' You have got to succeed in doing what is necessary.
Moral of the Work. In war: resolution. In defeat: defiance. In victory: magnanimity. In peace: goodwill.
Never in the field of human conflict was so much owed by so many to so few.
Never, never, never give up.
No folly is more costly than the folly of intolerant idealism.
One ought never to turn one's back on a threatened danger and try to run away from it. If you do that, you will double the danger. But if you meet it promptly and without flinching, you will reduce the danger by half. Never run away from anything. Never!
Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery.
Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.
The first quality that is needed is audacity.
The nose of the bulldog has been slanted backwards so that he can breathe without letting go.
The truth is incontrovertible, malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end; there it is.
There is no such thing as public opinion. There is only published opinion.
These are not dark days: these are great days - the greatest days our country has ever lived.
They are decided only to be undecided, resolved to be irresolute, adamant for drift, solid for fluidity, all-powerful to be impotent.
True genius resides in the capacity for evaluation of uncertain, hazardous, and conflicting information.
Victory at all costs, victory in spite of all terror, victory however long and hard the road may be; for without victory, there is no survival.
War is a game that is played with a smile. If you can't smile, grin. If you can't grin, keep out of the way till you can.
War is mainly a catalogue of blunders.
We shall defend our island, whatever the cost may be, we shall fight on the beaches, we shall fight on the landing grounds, we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall fight in the hills; we shall never surrender.
We shall draw from the heart of suffering itself the means of inspiration and survival.
When the eagles are silent the parrots begin to jabber.
When you are winning a war almost everything that happens can be claimed to be right and wise.
You have enemies? Good. That means you've stood up for something, sometime in your life.

Ronald Reagan Quotes

"The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant: It's just that they know so much that isn't so."
Above all, we must realize that no arsenal, or no weapon in the arsenals of the world, is so formidable as the will and moral courage of free men and women. It is a weapon our adversaries in today's world do not have.
All the waste in a year from a nuclear power plant can be stored under a desk.
Approximately 80% of our air pollution stems from hydrocarbons released by vegetation, so let's not go overboard in setting and enforcing tough emission standards from man-made sources
Come here to this gate! Mr. Gorbachev, open this gate! Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall!
Concentrated power has always been the enemy of liberty.
Double, no triple, our troubles and we'd still be better off than any other people on earth. It is time that we recognized that ours was, in truth, a noble cause.
Facts are stupid things.
Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn't pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same.
Freedom prospers when religion is vibrant and the rule of law under God is acknowledged.
Government exists to protect us from each other. Where government has gone beyond its limits is in deciding to protect us from ourselves.
Governments tend not to solve problems, only to rearrange them.
History teaches that war begins when governments believe the price of aggression is cheap.
How can a president not be an actor?
How do you tell a communist? Well, it's someone who reads Marx and Lenin. And how do you tell an anti-Communist? It's someone who understands Marx and Lenin.
I have wondered at times what the Ten Commandments would have looked like if Moses had run them through the US Congress.
I will stand on, and continue to use, the figures I have used, because I believe they are correct. Now, I'm not going to deny that you don't now and then slip up on something; no one bats a thousand.
In Israel, free men and women are every day demonstrating the power of courage and faith. Back in 1948 when Israel was founded, pundits claimed the new country could never survive. Today, no one questions that. Israel is a land of stability and democracy in a region of tryanny and unrest.
Let us ask ourselves; "What kind of people do we think we are?".
Man is not free unless government is limited.
My philosophy of life is that if we make up our mind what we are going to make of our lives, then work hard toward that goal, we never lose - somehow we win out.
No mother would ever willingly sacrifice her sons for territorial gain, for economic advantage, for ideology.
Of the four wars in my lifetime, none came about because the U.S. was too strong.
Our forbearance should never be misunderstood. Our reluctance for conflict should not be misjudged as a failure of will. When action is required to preserve our national security, we will act.
Protecting the rights of even the least individual among us is basically the only excuse the government has for even existing.
Some people wonder all their lives if they've made a difference. The Marines don't have that problem.
The ultimate determinant in the struggle now going on for the world will not be bombs and rockets but a test of wills and ideas - a trial of spiritual resolve: the values we hold, the beliefs we cherish and the ideals to which we are dedicated.
The United Sates has much to offer the third world war.
There are no easy answers' but there are simple answers. We must have the courage to do what we know is morally right.
To paraphrase Winston Churchill, I did not take the oath I have just taken with the intention of presiding over the dissolution of the world's strongest economy.
Today we did what we had to do. They counted on America to be passive. They counted wrong.
We are never defeated unless we give up on God.
We have the duty to protect the life of an unborn child.
We must reject the idea that every time a law's broken, society is guilty rather than the lawbreaker. It is time to restore the American precept that each individual is accountable for his actions.
We will always remember. We will always be proud. We will always be prepared, so we will always be free.
Within the covers of the Bible are the answers for all the problems men face.
You know, if I listened to Michael Dukakis long enough, I would be convinced we're in an economic downturn and people are homeless and going without food and medical attention and that we've got to do something about the unemployed.