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ban islam and christianity and judiasm follow.1st amendment applies or it doesn’t.
it doesn’t allow them to commit terrorism, but they can still face east and pray to a black rock if they wish.
remember that there are many who come here to escape oppression.
I will take on Rodan first. Involvement by native converts and Muslims born here is irrelevant to the question of whether Islam should be banned. Islam should be banned or tolerated based on its mission, doctrines and practices, not the identity of its adherents.
Lance's argument that banning Islam implies banning religions is illogical because there is good cause for banning Islam. Unlike Judiasm & Christianity, Islam has a mercenary mission and militant methods. It issues a mandatory license to kill, enslave, rape, pillage & plunder. Jihad is "ordained for Muslims". That means Jihad is mandatory, not optional. Jihad is their "original religion", abandoning it in favor of productive pursuits subjects them to a curse from Allah.The Bible neither issues an open license to kill nor threatens adherents with Hellfire for failing to engage in offensive conquest.
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This group is created because there has been a breach of contract by the creator of the Group "Ban Islam" and Face book needs to address this issue as a group demoralizing any religion is disrespectful and encourages religious hatred among people...
Of course there is a freedom of speech.. BUT, There is no freedom of abusing, spamming, swearing or disrespecting!Kangarooistan is a clever liar, the sentence quoted above is an exemplar of kitman: lying by commission or concealment. We can discover the truth of this matter by examining Islam's all purpose handbook of Shari'ah: Reliance of the Traveller.
-4- to revile Allah or His messenger (Allah bless him and give him peace);
-5- to deny the existence of Allah, His beginingless eternality, His endless eternality, or to deny any of His attributes which the consensus of Muslims ascribes to Him (dis: v1);
-6- to be sarcastic about Allah's name, His command, His interdiction, His promise, or His threat;
-7- to deny any verse of the Koran or anything which by scholarly consensus (def: b7) belongs to it, or to add a verse that does belong to it;
-16- to revile the religion of Islam;
O8.1
When a person who has reached puberty and is sane voluntarily apostatizes from Islam, he deserves to be killed.
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In such a case, it is obligatory for the caliph (A: or his representive) to ask him to repent and return to Islam. If he does, it is accepted from him, but if he refuses, he is immediately killed.
Every one has a right to oppose & criticize others' belief but in a positive and gentle way..If you oppose or criticize Islam in any place where Allah's writ runs, they'll kill you for it!
Earth is sweltering with the heat of tyrant and brutality.. Let's transform it into an oasis of peace and love!.. Let's say no to hate!
Let's stand against the racism.. We all are created equal... Let's respect the differences!.. Neither any religion nor any philosophy preach hate... So let's join hand and walk together to make the earth a wonderful planet...
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3:20 PM
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Fears about safety have been churned up in the Muslim student community at the University of Victoria recentlyIs there any rational basis for those 'fears", or are they the product of paranoia or political expediency? Does Lorenzo Bouchard have a proven history of making or carrying out threats of physical violence? Was there any threatening language in those posters? While those questions remain unanswered, I will presume that the claims of "fears" are the product of political expediency.
There are violent passages in virtually all sacred religious texts, including some that target specific groups and some simply declaring the omnipotence of the god figure.I am only familiar with Christian & Islamic scripture. Are Buddhists & Hindus engaging in Jihad? Did they perpetrate the attacks at Beslan, London, Madrid or New York? Then why bring up other scriptures?
Narrated Abdullah ibn Umar:
I heard the Apostle of Allah, (peace_be_upon_him) say: When you enter into the inah transaction, hold the tails of oxen, are pleased with agriculture, and give up conducting jihad (struggle in the way of Allah). Allah will make disgrace prevail over you, and will not withdraw it until you return to your original religion.
Conducting Jihad is their religion. I do not find in the Christian Gospels any direct equivalent to Islam's Jihad imperative. If you find one, please submit the book chapter & verse.
We must be careful as a society not to encourage the ignorance-based idea that everyone who adheres to a particular faith will interpret those passages the same way.Muslims are not empowered to interpret their scripture, which includes two types of verses: clear and unclear. The clear verses contain Allah's commands, including those cited above, and his rules, etc. which are to be believed in and implemented. The clear verses do not require interpretation. The meaning of the clear verses has been fixed by scholars, based upon Moe's sunnah. The unclear verses have meanings known only to Allah, and are to be believed but not implemented. To fully comprehend this, you need to read 3:7 and its tafsir.
The ban Islam campaign also calls for the destruction of the Qur’an, the Islamic holy book. On some levels, that’s like saying we should ban other religions because their holy texts refer to non-believers as heathens who should be destroyed.Please substantiate this assertion. Lorenzo's petitions* call for Islam to be banned, they do not mention destroying the Qur'an. They also explicitly state the grounds on which Islam should be outlawed.
To: Prime Minister of Canada (Stephen Harper)IN THE INTEREST OF HUMAN VALUES AND UNIVERSAL LOVE, WE DIRECT THIS PETITION TO OUR PRIME MINISTER,THE HONORABLE STEPHEN HARPER AND ALL MEMBERS OF OUR DEMOCRATIC PARLIAMENT.
WE, THE UNDERSIGNED CANADIAN PETITIONERS, REQUEST A BAN ON THE ORGANIZATION CALLED ISLAM. WE REQUEST THIS BAN DUE TO THE CRIMINAL ACTS OF IT'S FOUNDER, MOHAMMED AND THE KORAN'S DOCTRINES WHICH LEGITIMIZES PAEDOPHILIA, ASSASSINATIONS, THE OPPRESSION OF WOMEN BY SUPPRESSING THEIR HUMAN RIGHTS AND THE UTILIZATION OF TERROR AS A WEAPON OF INTIMIDATION AND CONTROL.Sincerely,
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But in this day and age, we must be vigilant when individuals or groups with a certain viewpoint threaten – either implicitly or directly – the well-being of others who are minding their own business.It appears to this reader that your editorial is casting innuendo against Lorenzo Bouchard, accusing him of threatening Muslims. If you have evidence of any threat, why don't you publish it?
O9.1 ...As for subsequent times, there are two possible states in respect to non-Muslims. The first is when they are in their own countries, in which case jihad (def: o9.8) is a communal obligation, and this is what our author is speaking of when he says, "Jihad is a communal obligation," meaning upon the Muslims each year....When Muslims carry out demonstrations, they frequently display signs urging our decapitation and proclaiming that Islam will conquer and dominate us. What do you say about those threats? Sphere: Related ContentO9.8: The Objectives of Jihad
The caliph (o25) makes war upon Jews, Christians, and Zoroastrians (N: provided he has first invited them to enter Islam in faith and practice, and if they will not, then invited them to enter the social order of Islam by paying the non-Muslim poll tax (jizya, def: o11.4) -which is the significance of their paying it, not the money itself-while remaining in their ancestral religions) (O: and the war continues) until they become Muslim or else pay the non-Muslim poll tax (O: in accordance with the word of Allah Most High,
"Fight those who do not believe in Allah and the Last Day and who forbid not what Allah and His messenger have forbidden-who do not practice the religion of truth, being of those who have been given the Book-until they pay the poll tax out of hand and are humbled" (Koran 9.29),
the time and place for which is before the final descent of Jesus (upon whom be peace). After his final coming, nothing but Islam will be accepted from them, for taking the poll tax is only effective until Jesus' descent (upon him and our Prophet be peace), which is the divinely revealed law of Muhammad. The coming of Jesus does not entail a separate divinely revealed law, for he will rule by the law of Muhammad. As for the Prophet's saying (Allah bless him and give him peace),
"I am the last, there will be no prophet after me,"
this does not contradict the final coming of Jesus (upon whom be peace), since he will not rule according to the Evangel, but as a follower of our Prophet (Allah bless him and give him peace) ).
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3:33 AM
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Tyson Foods' cancellation of the Labor Day holiday for their employees in Tennessee - instead giving them a Muslim holiday - want it or not - on the day decreed by Islam, was the final nail for me.
A reader and great blogger Holger Awakens left the following story on one of my comment threads. Think about the significance of Holger's last paragraph:
Many, many years ago, the State of Minnesota led the nation in extending an invitation to the people of South Vietnam to come to Minnesota and start a new life - much of that was coordinated by the churches in Minnesota. These Vietnamese refugees came to Minnesota and after a few growing pains, assimilated into American and Minnesota society and have been a truly miraculous contributing segment of society.In a previous post, Tyson Foods Brings Latent Tuberculosis to Emporia, KS, I asked how hundreds of sick Somalis were allowed into the United States under the guise of working for Tyson Foods.
The same experiment was tried with Somalis coming to Minnesota, yet now after several years, the muslims of Somalia in Minnesota continue to fight assimilation and instead demand conforming to THEIR way of life. They have brought crime and divisiveness to Minnesota where the Vietnamese brought an ethic of hard work and honor.
P.S. the one documented act of assimilation into Minnesota society by the Somalis was in 2006 when they massed at the voting precincts in Minneapolis to cast their votes. And who did they help elect? The moutpiece for the Nation of Islam, Keith Ellison.
Local officials say the case represents only a small part of the growing problem of foreign-born, unassimilated communities with high rates of communicable diseases such as TB and HIV. Many say they need help from Washington, which has been silent on the issue for too long.
We have not really gotten Congress to engage, which I would like to see occur, Peggy Mast, an 11-year Republican state representative from Kansas whose district includes Emporia, tells Newsmax. I have talked with some of the offices and they think it is more of a state issue . . .Well, I assume it was not THE STATE that admitted these refugees to the U.S. in the first place. Oh, there's so much to say about this one, but I'll skip my rant for now, because there is more:
The U.S. government has agreed to resettle more than 12,000 Somalis who fled their war-torn country in the past decade. Many have been living in refugee camps in Kenya prior to coming to America.So these 12,000 are already here - have been here for at least a year.
Mandatory health screenings are frequently put off for several months after the immigrants arrival. Those who blend into the secretive, tight-knit Somali community often do not resurface to be tested for communicable disease, officials complain.
Mast says that all levels of government need to be more pro-active in dealing with the issue of immigration workers, as it has opened up many additional areas of concerns including community safety, cultural clashes, and a long-term financial drain on communities where unskilled immigrants congregate for employment.So at least someone is admitting that cultural clashes are a reality, and that communities suffer LONG-TERM financial harm - and these immigrants are "unskilled," to boot, so why did we bring them over? Oh, of course, it was for humanitarian reasons. What about the humanity right here in the U.S. working and paying our taxes each and every day - for what, to pay the damage control for Tyson Foods ?
Mast said the TB infections in the Somali community Emporia, a city of 28,000 people, the third highest TB rate in Kansas.Remember Andrew Speaker and his bride, Sarah? They had a fairytale wedding in Greece, honeymoon in Italy. Got a phone call in their bridal suite from the CDC. He was told that the authorities would arrive in "hours," to place him in quarantine. Well they found Andrew Speaker, from Atlanta, via Greece, in Italy, but they can't rout-out the tuberculer Somalis in Emporia, KS.
[The Somali community] is dealing with active cases now, she tells Newsmax. This population is extremely difficult to track and it is hard to treat them. You have to make sure they are compliant with the medication and make sure they finish it up.
...that latent TB and other infectious diseases are prevalent among Somali and other humanitarian refugees arriving in the U.S.
She [Mast] said there has been little family reunification among the male workers something that could occur in the future and further exacerbate the problem and stress the community financially and culturally.I had to reread that one a couple of times. I can only assume that these male refugees have not yet brought their refugee families to the U.S. - and if and when they do, the problems multiply.
Peggy Mast, the Gazette says, is an "11 year Republican state representative from Kansas whose district includes Emporia..." We'll I'm almost speechless:[Mast says] There have already been several cultural clashes. This is a disservice to the population you are bringing in and you are inviting a cultural clash, Mast says. The fact there is such a cultural clash and where you have active TB cases, you only have to guess to imagine the fear that spreads through the community.Here's a Conservative warning of the disservice to the "population" brought to the U.S. under the guise of humane refugee status - and they are sick with a communicable disease, they are trouble makers and they have no interest in "communing" with Americans.
I believe that Kansas families deserve leaders who are capable of implementing positive change...leaders who understand the unique character of our communities, the strength of our citizens, and the importance of our children's future.
During challenging times, state government needs experienced leadership rooted in conservative values that can make a difference for our communities.
I pledge to continue to be a voice for the people I represent and not special interest groups. Putting the people of my district first has always been my top priority.
Mast's website also says: "If you live in the city of Emporia, Peggy may or may not represent you,..."
In addition to health concerns, she said there should be mandatory cultural education to help refugees assimilate.
Mast says "they [the Somalis] do not understand the culture."
[Mast again] Men tend not to show respect for women. They are very demanding and do not respect other peoples space, Mast says. Additionally, she said the limited language skills have caused communication issues beyond simple day-to-day contact.
For example, Mast says most of the Somalis in Emporia are single males who live in a cluster near Emporia State University. She said several female students complained of being extremely intimidated by the Somali men's presence.
Islam knows no respect for women. God bless the women and children because the Muslim men have a plan and it's not pretty. This is something that our Government cannot legislate.
We must keep these people out of the United States. As jaded as I am, I still believe in legal immigration from Arab countries for people who have jobs, can support themselves, want to be among Americans and most importantly, understand and co-operate with us as we surveil their every move, if and when necessary.
Here's Mast worrying about the "sense of security" for the Somalis again:
We look down the road and see the problems they can create. Unemployed single males with nothing to do.Is this now legal in the U.S. - can they come here and do this, or has a local court conspired with the local back street iman to carry on business as usual - as is done routinely in Britain ?
Mast says the inconsistency of some of the authorities does not help create any sense of security.
She notes that it is cultural for Somalis to marry up to four wives at one time.
My concern is multiple children: Is our society prepared to take responsibility for caring for that size of the family? [Sponsors] say it will be a major resettlement [in Emporia]. The community is not ready for this, Mast says.Where in all this dialog from Ms. Mast is the culpability of Tyson Foods?
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10:08 PM
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Exposing the evil doctrines & practices of Islam is not an act of discrimination, neither is Islam a race nor a religion. Islam is a war machine; an institution founded by a warmonger for the purpose of promoting and perpetuating war for his own personal emolument & empowerment.Yesterday’s attack by the Islamists, led by Pakistan, had the subtlety of a thin-bladed knife slipped silently under the ribs of the Human Rights Council. At first reading the amendment to the resolution to renew the mandate of the Special Rapporteur on Freedom of Expression might seem reasonable. It requires the Special Rapporteur:
“To report on instances in which the abuse of the right of freedom of expression constitutes an act of racial or religious discrimination …”
“.. if we regulate certain things ‘minimally’ we may be able to prevent them from being enacted violently on the streets of our towns and cities.”
Article 19General COMMENT on its implementation
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3. The exercise OF the rights provided for in paragraph 2 OF this article carries with it special duties and of responsibilities. It May therefore subject ton certain restrictions, but thesis sound only look for as acres provided by law and of acres necessary:
(B) For the protection OF national security or OF publicly order (ordre publicly), or OF publicly health or morals.(A) For respect OF the rights or reputations OF others;
19.3 contradicts the other provisions unless it is severely limited, as by the first amendment in our Bill of Rights.Article 202. Any advocacy OF national, racial or religious have-talk that constitutes incitement tons discrimination, hostility or violence sound prohibited by law.1. Any propaganda for was sound prohibited by law.
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