Olbermann: Obnoxious, Self-Righteous Hypocrite

Keith Olbermann made a slick, slimy spew of self-righteous drivel which disgusts me to an extreme degree.  I share it with you because  I need to expose Olbermann's al-taqiyya & kitman.  If you can view and hear this spew of sophistry & sewage without smashing or spitting on your monitor, you are one tough cookie.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SrDS-tqQtg8&feature=player_embedded




I found the transcript here, fortunately'  because Olbermann spews much faster than I can type and we need to freeze the stream in order to view the Turds floating by in the rapids.

    The title  contains the first lie: ...the inaccurately described "Ground Zero mosque."  What is planned for the top floor?  Why did they include an Islamic prayer room?  Is it because  a few nearby Mosques are over crowded, with worshipers spilling out into the street?   So, regardless of the building's other functions, its primary function is that of a Mosque.  If it was not a Mosque, it would not have a prayer room.

    Next, Olbermann quotes Pastor Martin Niemoller as a slick equation of those who oppose the Ground Zero Mosque to Nazis.  Nazis rounded up innocent people and slaughtered them.  We rise up in opposition to the erection of a symbol of Islamic triumph & Supremacy.  We have no storm troopers, no force beyond our voices and our votes.

    There follows an overloaded description of Niemoller.

"He witnessed persecution, he acquiesced to it, he ultimately fell victim to it. He had been a German World War 1 hero, then a conservative who welcomed the fall of German democracy and the rise of Hitler and had few qualms the beginning of the holocaust until he himself was arrested for supporting it insufficiently."

    Note how slickly Olbermann ties conservative to the fall of democracy, again calumniating conservatives by equating us with National Socialists. If God wanted to give the world an enema, he'd  insert the tube in Olbermann 's mouth.

    The calumny continues with a malapropism.

"...In quoting him, I make no direct comparison between the attempts to suppress the building of a Muslim religious center in downtown Manhattan, and the unimaginable nightmare of the Holocaust. Such a comparison is ludicrous. At least it is, now."

  
    Olbermann has gone to some length to imply an equation between  the Holocaust and opposition to the Ground Zero Mosque, now he denies it, with a reservation.  Someone should set a beer trap for that slug.

    Again, he invokes Niemoller as to support calumny.

"...He was warning of the willingness of a seemingly rational society to condone the gradual stoking of enmity towards an ethnic or religious group warning of the building-up of a collective pool of national fear and hate, warning of the moment in which the need to purge, outstrips even the perameters of the original scape-goating..."

    Olbermann declares us irrational and accuses us of stoking enmity towards Muslims, as if we were wagging the dog, artificially creating a war.  His sly suggestion lies 180° out of phase with reality.  Nine years ago, 19 Muslims, motivated by Allah's command to attack disbelievers and his promise of eternity in the celestial bordello, hijacked four airliners and flew three of them into occupied office structures.    

    Between our war of revolution and 1815, the Barbary Pirates, who happened to be Muslims, sacked our shipping, enslaved the crews and demanded tribute, which became the chief cause of federal debt at that time.   When asked by what right they attacked us, they had a ready response.

"The ambassador answered us that [the right] was founded on the Laws of the Prophet (Mohammed), that it was written in their Koran, that all nations who should not have answered their authority were sinners, that it was their right and duty to make war upon them wherever they could be found, and to make slaves of all they could take as prisoners, and that every Mussulman (or Muslim) who should be slain in battle was sure to go to heaven."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Barbary_War

    According to Olbermann, we are artificially "stoking enmity"  where none exists.  In reality, Islamic scripture, tradition and law require attacks upon us, promise paradise to those who engage in jihad and threaten shirkers with eternal damnation.

    Olbermann continues to invoke Niemoller to calumniate us.

"He was warning of the thousand steps before a holocaust became inevitable. If we are at just the first of those steps again — today, here — it is one step too close."

    Olbermann accuses us to building up momentum for genocide.  I can not write for anyone else, but for my part, I seek no genocide. I seek the outlawing of Islam, the closure of its institutions and the denaturalization and deportation of its votaries.   There is no good reason to harbor, on our soil, an enemy fifth column whose scripture, tradition and cannon law require the prosecution of war upon us.


    Olberman is in a state of denial.

"Yet, in a country dedicated to freedom, forces have gathered to blow out of all proportion the construction of a minor community center; to transform it into a training ground for terrorists and an insult to the victims of 9/11 and a tribute to medieval Muslim subjugation of the West."

    Proportion?  Usama hoped to destroy our economy and vitiate our will to resist. Nearly three thousand people died in that attack.  "Community center"?  A skunk by any other name will smell as pungent.  Build a Mosque, add a library, meeting rooms and swimming pool and it is no longer a Mosque.  No prayers for victory over the disbelieving people, no daily cursing of Jews & Christians, no preaching of Jihad, no collection of Zakat to finance war against us.  Oh, perish the thought.
   

    Minor community center?  $5,000,000 acquisition costs plus $100,000,000 construction cost; minor indeed.  What would be major?  How about the annual operating costs of a 13 story building??  Who is paying for that minor community center, and why?

 "There is no training ground for terrorists."

    Where to Muslims learn about their "religious obligation", if not in the Mosque?  Perhaps they learn of it in community centers. Where do they obtain the fliers, books and cds that inculcate hatred and incite violence? 

    Insult to the victims?  Build a Mosque, a Muslim house of prayer, where Muslims will gather five times each day to curse us and pray for our defeat, where they will gather every  Friday afternoon to hear sermons  inciting jihad.  Build it where a landing gear landed after passing through one of the towers; where a cloud of dust and ash including human remains flowed through the street several stories deep.   No insult at all to the victims and their survivors.  When Muslims conquer an area,  after finishing the slaughter of innocents, they next tear down the local temple and replace it with a Mosque as a symbol of triumph and supremacy. Name it Cordoba House in honor of the symbol of the conquest of Spain.  No insult at all, perfectly inoffensive; yeah, right.

  "There is, in fact, no "Ground Zero mosque." It isn't a mosque."

    What in Hell do they call Muslim prayer rooms??  If it ain't a Mosque, why does it need an Imam?   Is Ground Zero a point, a dimensionless figure?  How can it be limited to the footprint of a few destroyed structures when other surrounding structures suffered damage and collected body parts on their roofs? If you ask me, Ground Zero extends as far as the dust clouds reached when the towers collapsed.

"A mosque is a Muslim holy place in which only worship can be conducted."

    They never do anything but pray in Mosques?  No weddings; no funerals?  No Jurgas? How about bomb building?  But bomb building is an act of worship.

    Olbermann asserts that we are a threat to Muslims,  inverting reality.  At least one recent Mosque arson was perpetrated by a member of the congregation.   How does the number of attacks on Mosques compare to the  terrorist attacks recently failed or thwarted when the authorities got lucky?

"...terrorism by extremists who happen to be Muslim, and never face the shameful truth about our country: As the Jacksonville mosque bombing shows, since Sept. 11, Muslims have been at far greater risk of being victims of terrorism in the United States, than have non-Muslims."

    "Extremists" is a shibboleth. Moe, who founded Islam, bragged about being made victorious with terror. That makes him a terrorist. Emulating Moe is normative Islam, not extremism. One Mosque, one pipe bomb.  How many attacks on the WTC?  How many attempted bombings?  How many shootings? How many vehicular assaults?  Muslims are more at risk than we are. Yeah, right.

    Back to the  name game.

"In Spain, in Cordoba, though the Muslims established multi-cultural, non-denominational institutions of learning, they were under constant attack from Christians, and from a series of internal all-Muslim Civil Wars."

    So they established schools, big deal. What was the status of conquered Jews & Christians?    Did Muslims treat them as equals?  Why were there 45 Christian martyrs? Muslims were under attack  from Christians, as if  trying to reverse Muslim conquest is a great evil.  Typical LibTard moral inversion.


    Olberman continues  by  using argumentum Tu-Quoque  to divert our attention from  Islam.

"And is there not a logical extension to Mr. Gingrich's conclusions about Cordoba and "triumphalism?" Virtually every church, every synagogue, indeed every mosque built on this continent stands where a Native American lived, or died, or was buried, or saw his world — his religions included — wiped out. By us."

    Watch the slick sleight of tongue.

"when the historical implications of Cordoba were made clear to the backers of this project, the property developer, Sharif Gamal, changed the name. They already compromised."

    As if the developer was unaware of the historical context!  A skunk by any other name will smell as pungent. Changing the name does not change the intent  neither does it change the effect.

    Following more flatulence about the location, Olberman spouts off about churches in the area, neatly overlooking the fact that that area had  a largely Christian populace when those churches were constructed.  Further, he avoids the story of the St. Nicholas Church which was destroyed by  debris from the collapse.  The bureaucrats have delayed rebuilding for nine years yet they hasten to expedite construction of a Mosque.

"People hear "Ground Zero Mosque" and they think Mecca in the backyard and a loud call to prayer and they take umbrage.":

    What is it like at Masjid  Ar Rahman?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDxJGtX5COk&feature=player_embedded#!

Who wants to hear that amplified caterwauling five times a day beginning at 4:30 a.m.??

    Observe how he waves away  the concern of a  survivor.

"We got no more than a few inches of skin and a couple of pieces of bone. Ground Zero is the burial place of my son," said Joyce Boland at the public hearing about the Center. "I don't want to go there and see an overwhelming mosque looking down at me."

I honor her pain, and her fear, but Mrs. Boland has nothing to worry about. Unless she walks directly to it, she'll never see it. This is what you see from where the Center will be. Another non-descript building across the street. This building and others like it will block views of the Trade Center, and views from the Trade Center."

    How does Olbermann  know what routes Mrs. Boland will take through the city?  The Mosque will be reported in the news, common knowledge,  and survivors will know about it.  Muslims around the world will take pride and pleasure in it, viewing it as a symbol of triumph and supremacy.   That will be an advantage to  the terrorists for recruitment and financing.

    In his self-righteous rant, Olbermann launches into kvetching about the invasion  of Iraq, a topic entirely irrelevant to the Ground Zero Mosque.  The invasion was poorly conceived and executed,  Shrub attempted to do it on the cheap, compromising with domestic  and international politics.

"We sacrificed 4,415 of our military personnel in Iraq to save Muslims, and there are thousands still there tonight to protect Muslims, but we don't want Muslims to open a combination culinary school and prayer space in Manhattan?"

    We sacrificed 4,415 and billions of dollars to political correctness, sending men where we should have sent nukes.  Everybody knows it but few have the courage to acknowledge objective factual reality.  We are losing in Afghanistan and Iraq. We will continue to lose so long as their populations and governments  remain Islamic.  We wasted blood and treasure because Shrub refused to identify the enemy.

    Observe the flow of sludge.

"From the beginning of this nation we have fought prejudice and religious intolerance and our greatest enemy: stupidity, exploited by rapacious politicians."

    Islam epitomizes religious intolerance.   Olberman probably has not read the Qur'an. Take 3:85, for example.
3:85. And whoever seeks a religion other than Islâm, it will never be accepted of him, and in the Hereafter he will be one of the losers.
 Islam declares war on us, how tolerant is that?
    Olberman continues to spew sludge.

"Despite the nobility of our founding and the indefatigable efforts of all our generations, there have always been those who would happily sacrifice our freedoms, our principles, to ward off the latest unprecedented threat, the latest unbeatable outsiders. Once again, at 45 Park Place, we are being told to sell our birth-right, to feed the maw of xenophobia and vengeance and mob rule."

    We will not sacrifice our freedoms; we seek to preserve our lives and liberties.  Claiming abridgment of religious liberty in this Mosque dispute is  a red herring. Islam is a war cult, not a legitimate religion.  It denies the sanctity of our lives and property; it declares and is prosecuting war against us.  Islam's mission is mercenary: Moe's personal emolument.  Anyone who will read and comprehend Surah al-Anfal will realize the truth of this matter.
    Islam attacked us two hundred years ago, forcing us to go into debt to pay tribute, killing and enslaving sailors. It killed millions all over the world, yet it is dismissed as an imaginary threat even though it recently killed three thousand and tried to kill more.   The LibTard accuses us of abandoning freedom of religion  to spite Islam.  LibTards lack sufficient intelligence and knowledge to comprehend the fact that Islam denies freedom of religion.  It attacks people solely based on their rejection of Islam.  Christians are murdered with impunity in Egypt, Indonesia, Kenya, Nigeria & Pakistan.  Their churches and houses are burned.  Islamic law imposes restrictions on Christians. Perhaps the LibTards should read it to see what they are supporting. 

    The spew continues.

"The terrorists who destroyed the buildings from which you could only see 45 Park Place as a dot on the ground, wanted to force us to change our country to become more like the ones they knew. What better way could we honor the dead of the World Trade Center, than to do the terrorists' heavy lifting for them? And do you think 45 Park Place is where it ends?"

    They seek to impose   Islam upon us, to kill us or force us to convert.  Olbermann has the situation precisely inverted.  Eliminating Islam from our soil would reduce the risk of further terror attacks and preserve, not threaten our liberty.  Giving the enemy another base on our soil dishonors the victims in the worst way.
    In his inverted way, Olberman gets one thing right.

"And in America, when somebody comes for your neighbor, or his bible, or his torah, or his Atheists' Manifesto, or his Koran, you and I do what our fathers did, and our grandmothers did, and our founders did you and speak up."

    Islam seeks to impose its Shari'ah on us, to criminalize all  criticism and questioning of Islam.  They want to make the practice of Christianity illegal.  I want no part of it.  I want the enemy and his institutions  out of my country!   I do not want any enemy bases here!   That does not make me a bigot, racist or Nazi.
    I want you to sign these petitions, share them with your friends, family & associates and make them go viral.  The text of those petitions contains the evidence which proves Olbermann wrong, exposing  Islamic aggression, genocide & terrorism.  

International Qur'an Petition

Outlaw Islam!

    Thanks and a tip of the hat to Bare Naked Islam.
   

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Islam: the Ultimate Hypocrisy

Barenaked Islam, in a post about an EDL counter march, posted a most instructive quote which bears close examination as a teachable moment. The quote comes from an interview segment in the video embedded below.

”We find many of these people who call for human rights and one law,” said Asad Ullah, member of the Muslims against the Crusades group. “They come and they say that they want equality. But what equality do you get when one man legislates over another? Is he not more superior than you? You are worshipping him by submitting to and obeying his laws... We will get oppression like this until we all submit to one law, and that is the law of God.”

"who call for human rights and one law"

The Muslim demonstrators, including Asad Ullah, were demanding imposition of Shari'ah on Britain, the wrong law for all.

"when one man legislates over another"

Shari'ah is one man : Muhammad, legislating over everybody. It is founded on his preaching & practice; the Qur'an & hadith. It is epitomized by this ayeh.

33:36. It is not for a believer, man or woman, when Allâh and His Messenger have decreed a matter that they should have any option in their decision. And whoever disobeys Allâh and His Messenger, he has indeed strayed in a plain error.

Moe and his imaginary friend make the laws, you obey without question. That is justice, equality and one law for all. Yeah, right. One law for all.

4:3. ... then marry (other) women of your choice, two or three, or four...

33:50. ...and a believing woman if she offers herself to the Prophet, and the Prophet wishes to marry her; a privilege for you only, not for the (rest of) the believers. Indeed We know what We have enjoined upon them about their wives and those (captives or slaves) whom their right hands possess, - in order that there should be no difficulty on you. And Allâh is Ever Oft­Forgiving, Most Merciful.

For a list, refer to: http://www.bible.ca/islam/islam-myths-muhammad-sinless-4-wives.htm

Is he not "superior" ?

How else would you explain Moe being given the special privilege of supernumerary wives?

"You are worshiping him by submitting to and obeying his laws."

"ṣall Allahu ʿalayhi wa aalihi wa sallam" That pretty much says it all. Muslims worship Moe. We do not worship a legislature by obeying laws we participated in creating and to which we consented.

"...until we all submit to one law, and that is the law of God.”

Yes, arbitrary arrest of EDL members for exercising the right of free speech is oppression; Shari'ah will increase, not decrease oppression.
Shari'ah makes any negative expression about Allah, Moe or their system of oppression a capitol offense. Wake up, wise up & rise up for the love of liberty!

• http://www.crusadersarmory.co.cc/RelianceO8-7.html List of acts entailing apostasy.
• http://www.crusadersarmory.co.cc/RelianceO8-2.html Penalty for Apostasy.
• http://www.crusadersarmory.co.cc/RelianceO11-5.html Restrictions on dhimmis.
• http://www.crusadersarmory.co.cc/RelianceO11-10.html Acts which violate Dhimma, subjecting the violator to the death penalty.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UXLcIlDIuo&feature=player_embedded

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Brits: Ignorant, Gullible Morons

A British tv station sent undercover agents into British Mosques to record what happens there. Channel 4, after seeing and hearing the preaching in "moderate" Mosques, highly praised as bastions of peaceful multiculturalism by the British government, still falls pray to the false dichotomy of radicalism and moderation.

They listened to preachers, they watched dvds, they visited web sites. They said that hatred, jihad, and everything bad about Islam comes from Saudi Wahhabism. Did it ever occur to those morons that Saudi Arabia is the origin of Islam? Did it ever occur to them to read the Qur'an & hadith to see what Islam really is? Of course not. Instead, they believe the false narrative of the "religion of peace" even after discovering that Muslims say one thing in public and another in private when they think there are no kuffar present.

This informative video has a 48 minute run time. It is a sample of what is preached in every Mosque. That preaching is derived from the Qur'an & hadith. For the short course, containing numerous quotes from Islam's canon of scripture, tradition, exegeses & jurisprudence, read What's Wrong With Islam/Muslims? For a good study on Jihad, read Jihad: The Islamic Doctrine of Permanent War. If you are deeply curious and willing to read a 1000 page book, turn to The Prophet of Doom.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2515587181120245843&hl=en#Please



After watching the video, download this ebook compiled from 13 fact packed blog posts: Know Thine Enemy.chm. It contains copious quotes from the Qur'an & hadith, each linked to source so that you can verify it and explore the context.

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Pamela Geller vs Lying Muslim

Bare Naked Islam embedded this video in an article about the Stop The Mosque Rally in NYC, this video illustrates media bias in favor of Islam. The interviewer frequently interrupted Pam Geller rather than allow her to complete her statements. Due to the soft and rapid speech of the interviewer I was not able to get the name of the lying Muslim. This is from the Faces of Faith feature on CNN.




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_wqt9edqOQ&feature=player_embedded

The interview with Pamela Geller begins approximately two minutes into this 12: 52 video. This is one of those videos that must be seen to be appreciated fully. Watch the interviewer's facial expressions. It is obvious from her expression and tone of voice that she is adversarial toward Geller. She interrupts before Geller can complete her answers. I believe that the interviewer succeeded in rattling Geller, pushing her off balance so that she was not able to make her usual articulate presentation. I will emphasize the questions with bold face, block quoting the answers and leaving my comments full width. Due to rapid speech, cross talk and poor typing skills, this transcript may contain errors, it will not be word for word perfect.

Bold underlined text is linked to my sources. Links will open in a new tab or window.

We understand that there is a protest today that you are leading, what exactly does your group hope to accomplish today and why are you against the building of Cordoba House, this Muslim and cultural community center?

Well, Ground Zero is a war memorial, its a burial ground, and this Mosque is offensive; its humiliating, its demeaning to the three thousand innocent victims who lost their lives. Without Islam this attack would never have happened. And we are rallying at Ground Zero, at the corner of Liberty and and Church to show the public outcry and we are asking that they be sensitive and tolerant and responsive to this overwhelming ah dissent to this Mosque. the latest polls show that America is against this Mosque. to build a shrine to the ideology which inspired this jihadist attack is insulting, it is...

At this point the interviewer made her first interruption to insert a canned response from the Imam of Cordoba Housed. The Cordoba House project is a symbol of Islamic supremacy. Muslims built a Mosque on Jerusalem's Temple Mount, and deny that the Temples ever existed there, claiming the site for themselves exclusively. Their attitude is supremacism, it is arrogant AssWholliness, totally unacceptable to civilized people. Recent riots were caused by similar conflicting claims over holy sites. You might remember hearing about Ayodhya. The Wikipedia entry will refresh your memory.


One remark is particularly telling: "Without Islam this attack would never have happened." The accursed abomination is a function of orthodox Islamic doctrine. It flows directly from Surah Al-Anfal 39 & Surah At-Taubah 29; from Sahih Bukhari 1.8.387 and from Reliance of the Traveller Book O, Chapter 9, which codifies them. [http://www.crusadersarmory.co.cc/RelianceO9-8.html http://www.crusadersarmory.co.cc/RelianceO9-9.html]

Another clause needs to be brought forward: "we are asking that they be sensitive and tolerant and responsive". Geller is sticking it in the left winger's eye. Islam is intolerant and unresponsive. In the Muslim world view, we must tolerate Islam, Muslims are privileged to kill us.

I want to read a response here from the Imam of the Mosque and cultural center because they put this out here and they want people like you and others who are criticizing them to understand what is going to take place in this facility. And they say that the Cordoba House seeks to create a community center where all people, Muslims, Jews, Christians and those of every faith can gather in a spirit of honor, respect and peaceful coexistence. And they go on to say that We cannot think of a better expression to promote the peaceful values of our faith than the Cordoba House, where American Muslims stand together with fellow citizens to condemn extremism and terror. It is a project to honor those people who were harmed on September 11th. Why do you object when they say you know, that's not correct what you are saying, this center is not about promoting some sort of hateful ideology, its quite the opposite?

First of all, that statement is deception because it is a Mosque, and only Muslims can pray ...

What's wrong with that?

It is a Mosque, and only Muslims can pray in a Mosque. The only time non-Muslims are allowed in a Mosque is if perhaps they would be able to convert. There is no plurality, there is no tolerance here...

Well thats not true because the Imam says that they would actually welcome people of various faiths to go and check this out and you can, as a non-Muslim, I'm a non-Muslim, I've been to a Mosque before - if you are invited as a guest to go as long as you are respectful...

Right--you're invited to go for proselytizing but it is not-there is no plurality in a Mosque . My question is: why there? How can it possibly be seen as outreach to build a Mosque at the war memorial that is Ground Zero, how ? How could that be perceived, that is a kick in the head, I don't understand how it can be turned into this idea of outreach when it is the opposite .
It is a triumph it is triumphal, we know that the Islamic pattern is to build gigantic Mosques on the cherished sites of conquered lands. We know that this is Islamic history...

Geller is trying to reinforce the concept of Mosques supplanting temples after becoming rattled and selecting the wrong word to inform us that Muslims invite us to Mosques in order to pull the wool over our eyes and, if possible, begin the process of converting us. Once again, the interviewer jumps in to prevent the completion of the thought.

Miss Geller, I'd like to ask you I'd like to ask you there are obviously Muslims scholars and Muslims who disagree with you but also President Bush who made this point time and time again when he reached out andsaid "look we've gotta go after those who attacked Americans on 9/11 --Al-Qaeda " certainly not moderate Muslims and not the faith of Islam, that there is a distinction, there is a difference and if people don't understand it its out of ignorance or misunderstanding. How do you counter that point if even President Bush said that what you're saying is not true?

Shrub said that "Islam is a great religion of peace". What makes him an expert? Who died and made him god? In fact, like Clinton & Obama, he is a damn liar. Peace, to Islam, is the condition of the world after they have finished conquering it. Only those who read Islam's canon know that peace and justice are fruits of conquest. Fitna prevails until Islam rules the world. Muslims attack kuffar because Moe told them that Allah commanded them to, promising eternal bliss in the celestial carnal house and threatening eternal torment in the fire of Hell as his carrot and stick incentives. Geller can't answer this way, if she did it would be her last interview, but look what she said.

I counter that point by saying: read the Qur'an, read the hadith, read the sira, there are some fifteen thousand...

Well, they have countered that as well and say that Islam ...its a perversion of Islam ... its a faith of peace?

Those who say that are Gd'd liars! There is no truth in there false assertions of passivity & perversion. They can not explain why the "religion of peace" has, in its scripture, sanctification of conquest, genocide & terrorism nor why it has rules for distributing spoils of war. They'd black ball Geller if she responded as I do.

Yes, I understand but the prime Minister of Turkey said "there is no extreme Islam, there is no moderate Islam, Islam is Islam. there have been fifteen thousand Islamic attacks since 9/11 and it is inspired by the threat doctrine. We have to deal with it. Clearly a better idea would be to build a center dedicated to expunging the Qur'an of the violent texts that inspire Jihad. Every jihadist attack has the imprimatur of a Muslim cleric, I mean, this is a fact. We can't re-write reality, we have to see what is, have to deal with whats in front of us or how are you going to change things ? ...

This is what happens when they get you po'd, anger interferes with clear, concise expression. Threat doctrine is a military term, it really does not belong in this context. Islamic aggression is primarily inspired by the Qur'an's Surah Al-Anfal & Surah At-Taubah. The hadith which confirm and exemplify them are codified and explained in Riyad us-Saliheen Book 11, Chapter 234. Wasn't there something Geller said you should read?

Miss Geller, how do you counter the reality that there are thousands of Mosques across the United States and they are not points or symbols of jihad or hate?

We know from research done by SANE that four out of five Mosques preach hate and preach incitement to violence, we know this--as I said, its part of the Qur'anic text. And I think it is deeply offensive to build a Mosque on the sacred grounds of 9/11. There is a piece of the plane in that building and I think what we need to do- we are going to file a suit with the federal government to designate that building as a war memorial as a historic landmark, like Gettysburg, like Pearl Harbor . There is a piece of that plane in that building and to pray next to that is repugnant to any decent American, any Muslim of conscience, let me tell you something, I received emails from Muslims who don't believe a Mosque should be there.

It ain't the act of prayer, Pamela, its what they are praying to: the demon whose imperatives inspired the accursed abomination.

We're going to talk to a Muslim who has another point of view, but before you go, have you read the Qur'an ?

Yes I have and I strongly recommend Robert Spencer's The Infidel's guide to the Qur'an and Ibn Warraq and Wafa Sultan and Noni Darwish, these are books from former Muslims that must be read by the American people to understand what it is they are facing. They just arrested two more jihadis they were US citizens, they were arrested at JFK Airport. You have to understand the threat doctrine if you are going to address the threat.

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Is there a portion-are there passages in the Qur'an that promotes what we saw al-Qaeda do on 9/11?

There are, but that Muslim won't admit it. I provided links to the most important such verses within my comments on the interview with Pamela Geller above.

Well first let me thank you for having me on and letting me provide what I call a Muslim perspective. Number one- a few points I want to make real quick. Unfortunately, there is a lot of erroneous translations that are out there. What we have to do is ask ourselves what do they hope to accomplish with this protest today against the Mosque? Asking the government to stop it--well that would be wholly unconstitutional its one of the first things I learned in law school, because it would be a violation of equal protection number one and number two, of the establishment clause of the First Amendment, something I learned in kindergarten as well. In America we have freedom of religion. Point number two, this is a fringe group. A lot of family members of 9/11 as well as public officials and regular Americans who understand American ideals support this initiative because they understand two crucial points: fringe groups like Pamela's- what they're doing number one- spreading the erroneous misinterpretation that the terrorists like al-Qaeda want to spread about Islam and number two: they're simultaneously feeding the propaganda that al-Qaeda uses to recruit which is that America is anti-Muslim. now Miss Geller and her group may be anti-Muslim, but the rest of America for the most part, is not. As far as where it says

http://www.quranbrowser.com/ displays a table of ten parallel translations for easy comparison. The words vary, with the exception of one polemical translation, the meanings do not. http://www.openburhan.net/ will display eighteen English translations if you click the ayeh number. It also displays a word by word breakdown, with links to an Arabic/Engish dictionary.

Besides al-taqiyya and kitman, as a lawyer, he should know that government interference would be blocked by the free exercise clause, not the establishment clause. He should also know that Islam is a standing violation of the establishment clause because it demands that temporal and spiritual power be in the same hands. Islam does not recognize separation of church and state. Islam is a lie. Muslims are liars. This is a wake up call.

What part is Miss Geller not understanding here because she clearly has a point of view here that she feels threatened and she feels that this is going to be dangerous to have this Mosque in that area. What do you want to say to her ?

Well, lets examine why she's threatened. Number one, she's talking about what the Qur'an teaches. There's 1.5 billion Muslims in the world, now there is admittedly probably tens of thousands of al-Qaeda members or members of other terrorist organizations; they have nothing to do with the teachings of Islam. She keeps equating al-Qaeda and their attack against this country to what Islam teaches. I'll take her to my family in Egypt, they'll fill her with food and take her shopping and they'll show her that the vast majority of Muslims around the word and not just in this country follow the teachings of the Qur'an, which state for example, in Chapter 5, verse 32: killing one innocent person is like killing all people saving one innocent life is like saving all people. or another verse that says let there be no compulsion in religion . Another verse that says let there be no tyranny, this is what Islam really teaches when you look at the accurate majority translations that are out there. There are thousands of Mosques already in this country. These are the teachings of Jesus and Abraham and Muhammad That they teach in Sunday schools, its what I learned in Sunday school growing up. So this Mosque that they're going to be building two blocks away from the World Trade Center- lets remember that number one, a lot of Muslims died at the World Trade Center Number two, this is going to be interfaith and open to a lot of non-Muslims to use the pool, use the exhibit facilities, to engage in dialog, just like a YMCA would, and yes, Muslims are going to go pray there because there are over a thousand Muslims who work down town who need a place to pray.

The Qur'an does not teach Jihad, it commands it! Get that straight for once. By the way, argumentum ad numerum and argumentum ad populum are logical fallacies, a lawyer should know that and avoid using them.

"Nothing to do with the teachings of Islam"? How about Allah's imperatives: "fight them until...only Allah is worshiped", "fight those who", "kill them wherever you find them", "I will cast terror", "Allah cast terror" Nothing at all to do with terrorism, nothing at all. Yeah, right. Snake feces!

He quotes 5:32, but not 5:33, why is that? Only because the latter verse details the punishment prescribed for those who "wage war against Allah". Ibn Kathir defines "wage war" as including disbelief. Got a clue yet? If you don't believe in Allah they can crucify you. Islam is a lie. Muslims are liars. Kitman is lying by obfuscation. These apologists for Islam are quick, slick & glib and they leave behind a lump of snake excrement. When you believe what they say, you eat that excrement.

2:256 says there is no compulsion in religion. 8:39 says "Fight them until...only Allah is worshiped.". Such conflicts are solved by naskh. Later revelations abrogate earlier revelations. The eighth surah was revealed later, 8:39 abrogates 2:256. There is something else the slick lawyer concealed from you. 3:110 says that Muslims are " the best of peoples ever raised up for mankind". That ayeh is explained by Sahih Buhari 6.60.80 The Verse:--"You (true Muslims) are the best of peoples ever raised up for mankind." means, the best of peoples for the people, as you bring them with chains on their necks till they embrace Islam.

So there is no tyranny in Islam? That word is not found in the Hilali & Khan translation, but this is, in 33:36: It is not for a believer, man or woman, when Allâh and His Messenger have decreed a matter that they should have any option in their decision.

"A lot of Muslims died at the World Trade Center", 23 out of more than 2700; How is that relevant to the fact that the accursed abomination was inspired by the Qur'an & hadith?

Let me ask you this, she makes the point, she says that this'll be a very important symbol to those who would want to do harm because its close to ground zero do you think that she has any kind of is this point valid at all?

Not at all. The more she talks the more its clear that she does not know what she's talking about. This Mosque is a symbol of the 1.5 billion who respect peace I mean, remember that people go around in the Muslim world saying "peace be unto you" as hello and goodbye. Let alone the Millions of Muslim Americans who including myself, including my brother in law who is an officer in the Air Force stationed in Iraq right now, teachers, doctors, these are peace loving American people, their relatives overseas are peace loving Muslims, This Mosque will provide a place to pray just like several other Mosques in New York City does, for her to say that its offensive is what's offensive to us because there is nothing offensive about our religion, Mosques are no different from synagogues and churches and nowhere in this country would someone go out there and fight against the creation of a church in downtown Manhattan so I mean its really just offensive and there's a lot of ignorance out there and the days when she can go out there and make these untrue statements about the religion are over. We now have native born, English speaking American citizens just like my self with law degrees who can finally go out there on shows like yours that are nice enough to give us an opportunity to respond and say that she's on the wrong side of history where .....

I know what Geller was talking about because I have read the Qur'an & hadith and a significant sample of Islamic exegeses & jurisprudence. Geller knows what she was talking about, so does that lying Muslim.

If Muslims respect peace, it is as the outcome of Islamic conquest. Islam divides the world into two camps: Dar ul-Islam and Dar ul-harb. Dar ul-harb is the house of war, it is wherever Islam is not yet in control. If you harbor any doubt about this, read 13:41.

The Mosque is a symbol of Islamic supremacy. Where Allah's writ runs, dhimmis are not allowed to build higher than Muslim structures and they are not permitted to build new churches. .

"Peace be upon you", ain't that sweet. Moe said something about greeting Jews & Christians, it is in Sahih Muslim 26.5389: "Do not greet the Jews and the Christians before they greet you and when you meet any one of them on the roads force him to go to the narrowest part of it".

"Because there is nothing offensive about our religion"? Islamic law says that:

The caliph (o25) makes war upon Jews, Christians, and Zoroastrians (N: provided he has first invited them to enter Islam in faith and practice, and if they will not, then invited them to enter the social order of Islam by paying the non-Muslim poll tax (jizya, def: o11.4) -which is the significance of their paying it, not the money itself-while remaining in their ancestral religions) (O: and the war continues) until they become Muslim or else pay the non-Muslim poll tax (O: in accordance with the word of Allah Most High,

"Fight those who do not believe in Allah and the Last Day and who forbid not what Allah and His messenger have forbidden-who do not practice the religion of truth, being of those who have been given the Book-until they pay the poll tax out of hand and are humbled" (Koran 9.29),

But there is nothing offensive about Islam, no, nothing at all. Islam is a lie. Muslims are liars. Wake up, wise up and rise up!

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