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Sunday, August 22, 2010

Examiner Rejects Facts about Islam

The Examiner  published an article by Armir Taraj  entitled:  Park51 Opponents Linked to Admirer of Terror Group Founder.   The article presented ad hominem arguments against Pamela Geller and Robert Spencer and appealed to biased authority figures without presenting  relevant, verifiable facts to refute the arguments presented by Geller and Spencer.  

    Presuming that their comment system would not allow links, I responded with references to Islam's canon.


Liberals resort to argumentum ad hominem because they have no relevant, verifiable facts with which to defend their emotion based positions  . 

The fact is that Islam is intrinsically evil, by design . Its mission is mercenary. Anyone can  confirm that fact by reading the Qur'an & hadith: 8:1, 41, & 67; 33:26,27; 48:20, Sahih Muslim 19.4327, Sahih Bukhari 1.7.331, 4.52.220, 3.37.495 & 4.52.267 You can look up those references or you can search for and read "Islam's Mercenary Mission".

The fact is that Islam is martial, it ordains warfare for Muslims, the relationship between Allah and Muslims is master:slave; purchased to fight in his cause, kill and be killed.  Allah commanded Muslims to wage war against pagans until only Allah is worshiped and to wage war against Jews & Christians until they are subjugated & make annual extortion payments. Moe confirmed those imperatives, declaring that he was "ordered to fight".

You can confirm those facts by reading the Qur'an & hadith: 8:69, 9:29, 9:123 & Sahih Bukhari 1.8.387. 

Moe sent out extortion letters and followed up with his army. You can search for Muhammad's letters and treaties and you can read Sahih Bukhari's books of Jihad, Khumus & Expedition.  Or you can search for, download and read Jihad.chm. 

Moe was a terrorist and bragged about it.  You can verify this fact by reading Sahih Bukhari 4.52.220 & 1.7.331  or you can search for, download and read Islamic Terror.chm. 

You can find a substantial subset of the relevant quotes, linked to source, in my blog post: "What's Wrong With Islam/Muslims?" You could look up the writings of Ibn Khaldun, Ibn Taymiyya, Qutb & Maududi.  You could look up Reliance of the Traveller, Book O, Chapter 9 to verify the fact that the jihad imperatives are  codified in Shari'ah.   You could look up the "science of Naskh" to discover that the relatively tolerant and peaceful early Meccan verses have been abrogated by Surah al-Anfal & at-Taubah. 

You could do the research, but you won't, because you are a Liberal, and liberals know that they are superior, intellectually and morally.  Liberals know that their instincts are obviously correct, they do not require relevant, verifiable factual evidence.   

    The Examiner's automated system responded with this message:




    My comment did not contain any profanity, so I decided to go all the way with another attempt at commenting.

Fighting facts with personal denigration is unfair. Robert Spencer posts facts at Jihad Watch. I attempted to post references to the source documents, your automated system accused me of trying to post profanity and rejected my comment. 

I will attempt to post links to my blog posts and compilations of posts which contain the relevant facts with links which will allow you to verify them and explore the context.

http://snooper.wordpress.com/2008/10/10/whats-wrong-with-islammuslims/

http://snooper.wordpress.com/2010/08/05/islam-vs-kuffar-adv-war/
http://snooper.wordpress.com/2010/08/03/park-51-place-of-salat/
Islamic Terror.chm:  http://www.box.net/shared/l9kl2j3xju
Jihad.chm:  http://www.box.net/shared/kpg3rjaqof

    The second attempt produced exactly the same result.  When I attempted to post a message announcing my intent to create this post, I got a message saying that I had failed to enter the correct  characters, but no capcha form was visible. A latter attempt  was successful, but there was no capcha.  

    It is evident that LibTards are repelled by relevant, verifiable facts.  They do not want their emotion driven assumptions to be refuted with truth.

    Here is the money quote (from FAIR):

"By selectively ignoring inconvenient Islamic texts and commentaries, Spencer concludes that Islam is innately extremist and violent."

Lets get specific, which the LibTards won't do.  Here is a sample of the "peaceful, tolerant ayat" which supposedly contradict Spencer's evidence.

  • 2:256. There is no compulsion in religion. Verily, the Right Path has become distinct from the wrong path. Whoever disbelieves in Tâghût and believes in Allâh, then he has grasped the most trustworthy handhold that will never break. And Allâh is All-Hearer, All-Knower.
  • 5:32. Because of that We ordained for the Children of Israel that if anyone killed a person not in retaliation of murder, or (and) to spread mischief in the land - it would be as if he killed all mankind, and if anyone saved a life, it would be as if he saved the life of all mankind. And indeed, there came to them Our Messengers with clear proofs, evidences, and signs, even then after that many of them continued to exceed the limits (e.g. by doing oppression unjustly and exceeding beyond the limits set by Allâh by committing the major sins) in the land!. 
  • 10:99. And had your Lord willed, those on earth would have believed, all of them together. So, will you (O Muhammad ) then compel mankind, until they become believers.
    10:100. It is not for any person to believe, except by the Leave of Allâh, and He will put the wrath on those who are heedless.  
  • 109:6. "To you be your religion, and to me my religion (Islâmic Monotheism)." 
  • 16:125. Invite (mankind, O Muhammad ) to the Way of your Lord (i.e. Islâm) with wisdom (i.e. with the Divine Inspiration and the Qur'ân) and fair preaching, and argue with them in a way that is better. Truly, your Lord knows best who has gone astray from His Path, and He is the Best Aware of those who are guided.
    The self-anointed experts who would so blithely dismiss Spencer's arguments overlook the science of Naskh. When two ayat conflict, the ayeh revealed later abrogates the older ayeh. [2:106, 16:101]  Examine the sequence of revelation.


18 Kafirun 6 Mecca 109
51 Yunus 109 Mecca 10
70 Nahl 128 Mecca 16
87 Baqarah 286 Medina 2
88 Anfal 75 Medina 8
112 Maidah 120 Medina 5
113 Taubah 129 Medina 9


    8:39 & 9:29  cancel out the more tolerant, peaceful verses.  Even though 5:32  is canceled out by Surah at-Taubah, lets consider the ayat which Muslims and their apologists never quote.
  • 5:33. The recompense of those who wage war against Allâh and His Messenger and do mischief in the land is only that they shall be killed or crucified or their hands and their feet be cut off on the opposite sides, or be exiled from the land. That is their disgrace in this world, and a great torment is theirs in the Hereafter.
    If you "wage war against Allah", you  "shall be": killed, crucified, have hand & foot cut off or exiled.  Why do Muslims practice kitman by concealing this verse?  Because of the definition of "wage war against Allah".  Ibn Kathir provides that definition in his tafsir. [Emphasis added.]
Disbelief in Allah constitutes waging war against him, subjecting one to the hudud listed in 5:33.   And they accuse us of cherry picking!

    Examine  Surah at-Taubah 29 carefully, what does it command Muslims to do?
  • 9:29  Fight against those who (1) believe not in Allâh, (2) nor in the Last Day, (3) nor forbid that which has been forbidden by Allâh and His Messenger (4) and those who acknowledge not the religion of truth (i.e. Islâm) among the people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians), until they pay the Jizyah with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.

What does Islamic law say about that?  Lets consult Umdat al-Salik.
  • THE OBJECTIVES OF JIHAD
    o9.R Thc caliph (025) makes war upon Jews,
    Christians, and Zoroastrians (N: provided he has
    first invited them to enter Islam in faith and practice,
    and if they will not, then invited them to
    enter the social order of Islam by paying the nonMuslim
    poll tax (jizya, def: 01 L4)-which is the
    significance of their paying it, not the money
    itself-while remaining in their ancestral religions)
    (0: and the war continues) until they
    become Muslim or else pay the non-Muslim poll
    tax (0: in accordance with the word of Allah Most
    High,
    "Fight those who do not believe in Allah and
    the Last Day and who forbid not what Allah and
    His messenger have forbidden-who do not practice
    the religion of truth, being of those who have
    been given the Book-until they pay the poll tax
    out of hand and are humbled" (Koran 9:29),
    the time and place for which is before the final descent
    of Jesus (upon whom be peace). After his
    final coming, nothing but Islam will be accepted
    from them. for taking the poll tax is only effective
    until Jesus' descent (upon him and our Prophet be
    peace), which is the divinely revealed law of
    Muhammad, The coming of Jesus does not entail
    a separate divinely revealed law, for he will rule
    by the law of Muhammad, As for the Prophet's
    saying (Allah bless him and give him peace),
    "I am the last, there will be no prophet
    after me,"
    this does not contradict the final coming of Jesus
    (upon whom be peace), since he will not rule
    according to the Evangel, but as a follower of our
    Prophet (Allah bless him and give him peace)).
    And the Jurists?  What did  Al-Shafi'i say?


What did Al-Ghazali say?


    There is more Fiqh!

al-Shaybani, d. 803 / 5, Hanafi. Siyar, transl. Majid Khadduri, The Islamic Law of Nations: Shaybani's Siyar (Baltimore 1966), p. 76-7, 87, 95-6, 100-1.

Quote:
Fight in the name of God and in the ”path of God” [i.e. truth]. Combat [only] those who disbelieve in God. Whenever you meet your polytheistic enemies, invite them [first] to adopt Islam. If they do so, accept it, and let them alone. […] If they refuse [to accept Islam], then call upon them to pay the jizya; if they do, accept it and leave them alone. If you besiege the inhabitants of a fortress or a town and they try to get you to let them surrender on the basis of God’s judgment, do not do so, since you do not know what God’s judgment is, but make them surrender to your judgment and then decide their case according to your own views.


Ibn Abi Zayd al-Qayrawani, d. 996, maliki. Cit. ur Leon Bercher, La risala ou epitre sur les elements du dogme de la loi d’Islam (Algiers 1945).
Quote:
Jihad is a precept of Divine institution. We Malikis maintain that it is preferable not to begin hostilities with the enemy before having invited the latter to embrace the religion of Allah except where the enemy attacks first. They have the alternative of either converting to Islam or paying the poll tax, short of which war will be declared against them.

Sheikh Burhanuddin Ali of Marghinan, d. 1196, hanafi. The Hidayah, cit. ur T.P. Hughes, A Dictionary of Islam (London 1895/1994), s. 244-5.
Quote:
The destruction of the sword is incurred by infidels, although they be not the first aggressors, as appears from various passages in the traditions which are generally received to this effect. […] When the Muslims enter the enemy’s country and besiege the cities or strongholds of the infidels, it is necessary to invite them to embrace the faith, because Ibn Abbas relates of the Prophet that he never destroyed any without previously inviting them to embrace the faith. If, therefore, they embrace the faith, it is unnecessary to war with them, because that which was the design of the war is then obtained without war. […] If the infidels, upon receiving the call, neither consent to it nor agree to pay capitation tax, it is then incumbent on the Muslims to call upon God for assistance, and to make war upon them […]

Molla Khosrew, d. 1480, hanafi. Kitab al-Gihad, övers. Nicola Melis, Trattato sulla guerra (Cagliari, Italien 2002), s. 95-6.
Quote:
[…] jihad is a fard al-kifaya, that is, that one must begin the fight against the enemy, even when he [the enemy] may not have taken the initiative to fight, because the Prophet […] early on […] allowed believers to defend themselves, later, however, he ordered them to take the initiative at certain times of the year, that is, at the end of the haram months, saying, ”Kill the idolaters wherever you find them” (Q9:5). He finally ordered fighting without limitations, at all times and in all places, saying, ”Fight those who do not believe in God, and in the Last Day” (Q9:29); there are also other [similar] verses on the subject. This shows that it is a fard al-kifaya.




    "Islam is a great religion of peace", yeah, right.   LibTards will never accept the evidence, no matter how much we present.  Evidence does not count, only emotion based assumptions count to LibTards.

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My Favorite Speeches and Other Items of Interest

  • George Bush's March 28, 2007 Discusses Economy, War on Terror During Remarks to the National Cattlemen's Beef Association;http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2007/03/20070328-2.html
  • Mitch McConnell's March 15, 2007 Funding For Troops, Not Timelines for Retreat; http://mcconnell.senate.gov/record.cfm?id=270747&start=1
  • Ronald Reagan's June 12, 1987 Tear Down This Wall Speech; http://www.reaganfoundation.org/reagan/speeches/wall.asp
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Winston Churchill Quotes

  • A prisoner of war is a man who tries to kill you and fails, and then asks you not to kill him.
  • Although personally I am quite content with existing explosives, I feel we must not stand in the path of improvement.
  • Although prepared for martyrdom, I preferred that it be postponed.
  • Attitude is a little thing that makes a big difference.
  • Battles are won by slaughter and maneuver. The greater the general, the more he contributes in maneuver, the less he demands in slaughter.
  • Danger - if you meet it promptly and without flinching - you will reduce the danger by half. Never run away from anything. Never!
  • I always seem to get inspiration and renewed vitality by contact with this great novel land of yours which sticks up out of the Atlantic.
  • I am an optimist. It does not seem too much use being anything else.
  • I have nothing to offer but blood, toil, tears and sweat.
  • I like a man who grins when he fights.
  • I was only the servant of my country and had I, at any moment, failed to express her unflinching resolve to fight and conquer, I should at once have been rightly cast aside.
  • If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time-a tremendous whack.
  • In war as in life, it is often necessary when some cherished scheme has failed, to take up the best alternative open, and if so, it is folly not to work for it with all your might.
  • It is no use saying, 'We are doing our best.' You have got to succeed in doing what is necessary.
  • Moral of the Work. In war: resolution. In defeat: defiance. In victory: magnanimity. In peace: goodwill.
  • Never in the field of human conflict was so much owed by so many to so few.
  • Never, never, never give up.
  • No folly is more costly than the folly of intolerant idealism.
  • One ought never to turn one's back on a threatened danger and try to run away from it. If you do that, you will double the danger. But if you meet it promptly and without flinching, you will reduce the danger by half. Never run away from anything. Never!
  • Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery.
  • Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.
  • The first quality that is needed is audacity.
  • The nose of the bulldog has been slanted backwards so that he can breathe without letting go.
  • The truth is incontrovertible, malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end; there it is.
  • There is no such thing as public opinion. There is only published opinion.
  • These are not dark days: these are great days - the greatest days our country has ever lived.
  • They are decided only to be undecided, resolved to be irresolute, adamant for drift, solid for fluidity, all-powerful to be impotent.
  • True genius resides in the capacity for evaluation of uncertain, hazardous, and conflicting information.
  • Victory at all costs, victory in spite of all terror, victory however long and hard the road may be; for without victory, there is no survival.
  • War is a game that is played with a smile. If you can't smile, grin. If you can't grin, keep out of the way till you can.
  • War is mainly a catalogue of blunders.
  • We shall defend our island, whatever the cost may be, we shall fight on the beaches, we shall fight on the landing grounds, we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall fight in the hills; we shall never surrender.
  • We shall draw from the heart of suffering itself the means of inspiration and survival.
  • When the eagles are silent the parrots begin to jabber.
  • When you are winning a war almost everything that happens can be claimed to be right and wise.
  • You have enemies? Good. That means you've stood up for something, sometime in your life.

Ronald Reagan Quotes

  • "The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant: It's just that they know so much that isn't so."
  • Above all, we must realize that no arsenal, or no weapon in the arsenals of the world, is so formidable as the will and moral courage of free men and women. It is a weapon our adversaries in today's world do not have.
  • All the waste in a year from a nuclear power plant can be stored under a desk.
  • Approximately 80% of our air pollution stems from hydrocarbons released by vegetation, so let's not go overboard in setting and enforcing tough emission standards from man-made sources
  • Come here to this gate! Mr. Gorbachev, open this gate! Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall!
  • Concentrated power has always been the enemy of liberty.
  • Double, no triple, our troubles and we'd still be better off than any other people on earth. It is time that we recognized that ours was, in truth, a noble cause.
  • Facts are stupid things.
  • Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn't pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same.
  • Freedom prospers when religion is vibrant and the rule of law under God is acknowledged.
  • Government exists to protect us from each other. Where government has gone beyond its limits is in deciding to protect us from ourselves.
  • Governments tend not to solve problems, only to rearrange them.
  • History teaches that war begins when governments believe the price of aggression is cheap.
  • How can a president not be an actor?
  • How do you tell a communist? Well, it's someone who reads Marx and Lenin. And how do you tell an anti-Communist? It's someone who understands Marx and Lenin.
  • I have wondered at times what the Ten Commandments would have looked like if Moses had run them through the US Congress.
  • I will stand on, and continue to use, the figures I have used, because I believe they are correct. Now, I'm not going to deny that you don't now and then slip up on something; no one bats a thousand.
  • In Israel, free men and women are every day demonstrating the power of courage and faith. Back in 1948 when Israel was founded, pundits claimed the new country could never survive. Today, no one questions that. Israel is a land of stability and democracy in a region of tryanny and unrest.
  • Let us ask ourselves; "What kind of people do we think we are?".
  • Man is not free unless government is limited.
  • My philosophy of life is that if we make up our mind what we are going to make of our lives, then work hard toward that goal, we never lose - somehow we win out.
  • No mother would ever willingly sacrifice her sons for territorial gain, for economic advantage, for ideology.
  • Of the four wars in my lifetime, none came about because the U.S. was too strong.
  • Our forbearance should never be misunderstood. Our reluctance for conflict should not be misjudged as a failure of will. When action is required to preserve our national security, we will act.
  • Protecting the rights of even the least individual among us is basically the only excuse the government has for even existing.
  • Some people wonder all their lives if they've made a difference. The Marines don't have that problem.
  • The ultimate determinant in the struggle now going on for the world will not be bombs and rockets but a test of wills and ideas - a trial of spiritual resolve: the values we hold, the beliefs we cherish and the ideals to which we are dedicated.
  • The United Sates has much to offer the third world war.
  • There are no easy answers' but there are simple answers. We must have the courage to do what we know is morally right.
  • To paraphrase Winston Churchill, I did not take the oath I have just taken with the intention of presiding over the dissolution of the world's strongest economy.
  • Today we did what we had to do. They counted on America to be passive. They counted wrong.
  • We are never defeated unless we give up on God.
  • We have the duty to protect the life of an unborn child.
  • We must reject the idea that every time a law's broken, society is guilty rather than the lawbreaker. It is time to restore the American precept that each individual is accountable for his actions.
  • We will always remember. We will always be proud. We will always be prepared, so we will always be free.
  • Within the covers of the Bible are the answers for all the problems men face.
  • You know, if I listened to Michael Dukakis long enough, I would be convinced we're in an economic downturn and people are homeless and going without food and medical attention and that we've got to do something about the unemployed.

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