Showing posts with label mortal threat. Show all posts
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Thursday, January 19, 2012

Newt Gingrich Misses the Mark on Islam & Shari'ah

Newt Gingrich Misses the Mark on Islam & Shari'ah News Gingrich swerves dangerously close to the truth, but veers away at the last moment.  Thanks and a tip of the hat to Pulp Ark, who posted a link on Facebook.  I viewed the video and read the accompanying article at Huffington Post


    The amateur transcript which follows will not be perfect, but should be close enough.  I have highlighted some major points which I will consider below.

Q:  Now you mentioned that the founding fathers have said that we are all created equal as men and also you have unquestionable support for Israel, obviously.  My question is on foreign policy--you've mentioned through the campaign theat the Palestinian people were invented people. What do you suggest should happen to them, should they become Israeli citizens, or should they just... what do you suggest should happen to them?

The other question is:  I know this is South Carolina, I am from South Carolina, but ...is 60% Evangelical Christians and with a strong support for Israel, but also my question is, you know, the governor of the state is, you know, of Indian heritage, her parents came from India, and we have a Catholic running for President, a Mormon running for President; would you, as Newt Gingrich support a Muslim American running for President, would you endorse, at one point in the future, in American history, that a Muslim American could possibly be running for President  given that we had a woman running for President in Hillary Cl8inton and we had a Jewish American in Joe Lieberman running for Vice President, thank you very much?

A:  I think it would depend entirely on whether they would commit in public to give up Shari'ah.  I am totally opposed to Shari'ah law, being accepted by any court in the United States, in fact I favor a federal law that preempts it and says Shari'ah law will not be used in any court in the United States and this is a very fundamental question.  I mean, people who are truly moderate ...we have a friend in Arizona who served in the U.S. Navy, who is a medical doctor, who is Muslim but he is a totally modern person trying to find ways to bring Islam into modernity

   When you realize it was said last night that a rising Islamization of Turkey has been accompanied by  a 1400% increase in women being killed; when you look at the actual  implementation of Shari'ah in places like Iran, when you look at churches being burned in Nigeria and in Egypt...the decline of Christians in Iraq from 1,200,000 when Americans arrived to about 500,000 today;  It depends entirely on the person: If they are a modern person integrated into the modern world, and they are prepared to recognize all religions, that's one thing, on the other hand, if they are the Saudis,  who demand that we respect them while they refuse to allow either a Jew or a Christian to worship in Saudi Arabia, that's something different.  and I think we need a President who stands up, tells the truth and rejects any kind of effort to impose on us a sense of guilt because we believe in our religion and we're prepared to tell the truth and I am totally opposed to the State Department meeting a week ago with the Organization of Islamic Countries who are seeking to censor any comment about Islam because I think it is a fundamental violation of our right of free speech as Americans.  But within that framework, a truly modern person who happened to worship Allah would not be a threat.  A person who belonged to any kind of belief in Shari'ah, any kind of effort to impose that on the rest of us, would be a mortal threat

    Now, the Palestinian question is a good one.  I think if HAMAS and the PLO would recognize Israel's right  to exist, and if they meant it; if they would hunt down and stop the terrorists and the bombings, I would favor peace with the Palestinians; I would favor an independent state, I would  an ability of them to become prosperous and live in safety and have the right of property rights.  But, in Novemeber, eleven missiles were fired into Israel; that's not a peace process, that's war,  and I think this idea... and HAMAS's official position is the extinction of Israel...we don't have negotiations with somebody who says lets sit down and  negotiate while I figure out how to wipe you out.  and I think that we have tolerated for too long terrorist activities disguised as diplomatic behavior, and i think the Palestinian people should throw out the folks .who want to destroy Israel and should say "Ok, we  accept Israel's right to exist, if Israel will accept our right to be prosperous, have the rule ... of our property... and candidly, that means giving up the 'right of return', and the reason I talk about it that way is no natural right of return.  Greeks have no right to return to Turkey,  East Germans have no right to return to Poland, Poles have no right to return to Russia, and we;ve had all sorts of changes in territorial boundaries in the last 200 years, and the only place where it's propped up is  against the state of Israel and the purpose of propping it up is to destroy Israel and we are to say 'fine, that's over; there is no right of return, now lets negotiate the future. '.

give up Shari'ah

    Including that phrase in a conditional clause is either a token of irony or ignorance.  I am not sure which applies in this case.  Abandonment of Shari'ah is an act of apostasy, one of twenty such acts listed in Reliance of the Traveller, Book O8.7.

-14- to deny the obligatory character of something which by the consensus of Muslims (ijma`, def: B7) is part of Islam, when it is well known as such, like the prayer (salat) or even one rak'a from one of the five obligatory prayers, if there is no excuse (def: u2.4);

-19- to be sarcastic about any ruling of the Sacred Law;

    Allah's permissions, prohibitions 7 imperatives, expressed in the Qur'an, are the primary source of Shari'ah. 

Only Allah has the right to rule

 

5:44. [...] And whosoever does not judge by what Allâh has revealed, such are the Kâfirûn (i.e. disbelievers - of a lesser degree as they do not act on Allâh's Laws ).

5:49.  And so judge (you O Muhammad ) between them by what Allâh has revealed and follow not their vain desires, [...]

22:41. Those (Muslim rulers) who, if We give them power in the land, (they) order for Iqamat-as-Salât. [i.e. to perform the five compulsory congregational Salât (prayers) (the males in mosques)], to pay the Zakât and they enjoin Al-Ma'rûf (i.e. Islâmic Monotheism and all that Islâm orders one to do), and forbid Al-Munkar (i.e. disbelief, polytheism and all that Islâm has forbidden) [i.e. they make the Qur'ân as the law of their country in all the spheres of life]. And with Allâh rests the end of (all) matters (of creatures).

33:36. It is not for a believer, man or woman, when Allâh and His Messenger have decreed a matter that they should have any option in their decision. And whoever disobeys Allâh and His Messenger, he has indeed strayed in a plain error.  

truly moderate

    That phrase defines a hypocrite [47:20], not a believer. Believers are only those who engage in jihad, killing others and being killed fighting in Allah's cause [9:111].
Newt appears to imply that he would endorse the candidacy of Dr. Zuhdi Jasser if he seeks high office.  I find Dr. Jasser to be an exemplar of cognitive dissonance because, while professing to be Muslim, he asserts that Islam can be modernized or reformed; that it is compatible with our Constitution & Republic, which it clearly is not.   You will not catch me knowingly voting for a Muslim, including Dr. Jasser!

bring Islam into modernity

    Dr. Jasser might as well try to fly by jumping off his roof and flapping his arms like wings. Islam is perfected and immutable. 

5:3. [...]This day, I have perfected your religion for you, completed My Favour upon you, and have chosen for you Islâm as your religion.  [...]

6:115. And the Word of your Lord has been fulfilled in truth and in justice. None can change His Words. And He is the All­Hearer, the All­Knower.

10.64. [...] No change can there be in the Words of Allâh, this is indeed the supreme success.

18:27. [...] None can change His Words, and none will you find as a refuge other than Him.

30:30. [...] No change let there be in Khalq­illâh (i.e. the Religion of Allâh Islâmic Monotheism), that is the straight religion, but most of men know not. [Tafsir At­Tabarî, Vol 21, Page 41]

Sahih Bukhari 8.76.585 [...] 'I will say: They are of me (i.e. my followers). It will be said, 'You do not know what they innovated (new things) in the religion after you left'. I will say, 'Far removed, far removed (from mercy), those who changed (their religion) after me." Abu Huraira narrated that the Prophet said, "On the Day of Resurrection a group of companions will come to me, but will be driven away from the Lake-Fount, and I will say, 'O Lord (those are) my companions!' It will be said, 'You have no knowledge as to what they innovated after you left; they turned apostate as renegades (reverted from Islam)."

depends entirely on the person

    Is the person a Muslim in name only, or is he a zealous Muslim concealing what he believes to avoid offending potential voters?  In one of his books, President Obama said that the would "side with the Muslims" if things turned ugly.  Who did he side with in the "Arab spring"?  Who is he siding with on the issue of censoring critic8ism of Islam?  Is he exemplifying his belief or is he practicing al-Taqiyya?

3:28. Let not the believers take the disbelievers as Auliyâ (supporters, helpers, etc.) instead of the believers, and whoever does that will never be helped by Allâh in any way, except if you indeed fear a danger from them. And Allâh warns you against Himself (His Punishment), and to Allâh is the final return.

The Prohibition of Supporting the Disbelievers
[...](unless you indeed fear a danger from them) meaning, except those believers who in some areas or times fear for their safety from the disbelievers. In this case, such believers are allowed to show friendship to the disbelievers outwardly, but never inwardly. For instance, Al-Bukhari recorded that Abu Ad-Darda' said, "We smile in the face of some people although our hearts curse them.'' Al-Bukhari said that Al-Hasan said, "The Tuqyah is allowed until the Day of Resurrection.'' [...]


    A Muslim's oath of office can not be trusted.  66:2 is in the context of marital disputes and 9:1 is in the context of breaking the hudna with Mecca to facilitate conquest.  But the hadith collected by Muslim shows us that Muslims have a break your oath free card from Moe.  This dispensation vitiates a Muslim's oath. 

66:2. Allâh has already ordained for you (O men), the dissolution of your oaths. And Allâh is your Maula (Lord, or Master, or Protector, etc.) and He is the All-Knower, the All-Wise.

9:1. Freedom from (all) obligations (is declared) from Allâh and His Messenger () to those of the Mushrikûn (polytheists, pagans, idolaters, disbelievers in the Oneness of Allâh), with whom you made a treaty.

9:3. And a declaration from Allâh and His Messenger to mankind on the greatest day (the 10th of Dhul-Hijjah - the 12th month of Islâmic calendar) that Allâh is free from (all) obligations to the Mushrikûn (see V.2:105) and so is His Messenger. So if you (Mushrikûn) repent, it is better for you, but if you turn away, then know that you cannot escape (from the Punishment of) Allâh. And give tidings (O Muhammad ) of a painful torment to those who disbelieve.

9:4. Except those of the Mushrikûn with whom you have a treaty, and who have not subsequently failed you in aught, nor have supported anyone against you. So fulfill their treaty to them to the end of their term. Surely Allâh loves Al- Mattaqûn (the pious - see V.2:2).

Sahih Muslim  Book 015, Number 4052:

Abu Huraira reported: A person sat late in the night with Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him), and then came to his family and found that his children had gone to sleep. His wife brought food for him. but he took an oath that he would not eat because of his children (having gone to sleep without food) He then gave precedence (of breaking the vow and then expiating it) and ate the food He then came to Allah s Messenger (may peace be upon him) and made mention of that to him, whereupon Allah's Messenger (may peace he upon him) said: He who took an oath and (later on) found something better than that should do that, and expiate for (breaking) his vow.

recognize all religions 

    Islam is declared to be perfect, final & superior.  Allah declares Jews & Christians to be the "worst of living creatures" Allah, his angels and Muslims curse Jews & Christians.  The religion with Allah is Islam, and nothing else will be accepted.  A Muslim who tolerates other religions is either ignorant, deceptive or an apostate.

a President who tells the truth

    Yes, we need a truthful President. First, we must find truthful candidates who will acknowledge the fact that Islam is the existential & irreconcilable enemy, with whom negotiation is fruitless. It is Islam, not Wahhabism, 'radicalism' or 'extremism'.  Islam's perpetual enmity and aggression are functions of the core doctrines of Islam, having nothing to do with nationality or sect.

modern Muslim

    There is no moderate Islam. There is no modern Islam.  Islam is what Moe preached and practiced 1400 years ago, not what you wish it to be.  Islam is defined by the Qur'an, which is immutable because the text forbids editing and Moe's sunnah, which does not change because he is dead. 

Shari'ah

    If Allah or Moe said it or did it, it is Shari'ah.  A Muslim who abjures Shari'ah signs his death warrant for believers to execute.  Because Shari'ah is primarily derived from the Qur'an, it is impossible to abjure it without abjuring Islam. 

mortal threat

    If one is a Muslim believer, one is a mortal threat to every person who is not a Muslim.  Exactly what part of Islam do you not comprehend?

8:39. And fight them until there is no more Fitnah (disbelief and polytheism: i.e. worshipping others besides Allâh) and the religion (worship) will all be for Allâh Alone [in the whole of the world ]. But if they cease (worshipping others besides Allâh), then certainly, Allâh is All-Seer of what they do.

9:29. Fight against those who (1) believe not in Allâh, (2) nor in the Last Day, (3) nor forbid that which has been forbidden by Allâh and His Messenger (4) and those who acknowledge not the religion of truth (i.e. Islâm) among the people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians), until they pay the Jizyah with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.

9:111. Verily, Allâh has purchased of the believers their lives and their properties; for the price that theirs shall be the Paradise. They fight in Allâh's Cause, so they kill (others) and are killed. It is a promise in truth which is binding on Him in the Taurât (Torah) and the Injeel (Gospel) and the Qur'ân. And who is truer to his covenant than Allâh? Then rejoice in the bargain which you have concluded. That is the supreme success .

if HAMAS would recognize Israel

    If pigs grew wings they could fly.  HAMAS is Islam.  Allah promised Muslims that they would conquer the world, irreversibly.  Allah's judgment is final, there is none to put it back, but Israel recovered some of her territory stolen by Muslims in 638 & 1948.  That recovery of territory is the ultimate blasphemy; empirical proof of the fact that Allah is an impotent idol.  If you expect Muslims to tolerate that, you need a brain transplant.  It has not happened in 63 years, and it will never happen because it ain't possible. 

throw out the folks

    Brilliant idea, Newt, you found the solution!  Expel the Muslims from Israel, including Judea & Samaria.  But you must also push them back beyond rocket range. 

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My Favorite Speeches and Other Items of Interest

  • George Bush's March 28, 2007 Discusses Economy, War on Terror During Remarks to the National Cattlemen's Beef Association;http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2007/03/20070328-2.html
  • Mitch McConnell's March 15, 2007 Funding For Troops, Not Timelines for Retreat; http://mcconnell.senate.gov/record.cfm?id=270747&start=1
  • Ronald Reagan's June 12, 1987 Tear Down This Wall Speech; http://www.reaganfoundation.org/reagan/speeches/wall.asp
  • Vice President Cheney's March 12, 2007 Remarks at the AIPAC 2007 Policy Conference; http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2007/03/20070312.html

Winston Churchill Quotes

  • A prisoner of war is a man who tries to kill you and fails, and then asks you not to kill him.
  • Although personally I am quite content with existing explosives, I feel we must not stand in the path of improvement.
  • Although prepared for martyrdom, I preferred that it be postponed.
  • Attitude is a little thing that makes a big difference.
  • Battles are won by slaughter and maneuver. The greater the general, the more he contributes in maneuver, the less he demands in slaughter.
  • Danger - if you meet it promptly and without flinching - you will reduce the danger by half. Never run away from anything. Never!
  • I always seem to get inspiration and renewed vitality by contact with this great novel land of yours which sticks up out of the Atlantic.
  • I am an optimist. It does not seem too much use being anything else.
  • I have nothing to offer but blood, toil, tears and sweat.
  • I like a man who grins when he fights.
  • I was only the servant of my country and had I, at any moment, failed to express her unflinching resolve to fight and conquer, I should at once have been rightly cast aside.
  • If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time-a tremendous whack.
  • In war as in life, it is often necessary when some cherished scheme has failed, to take up the best alternative open, and if so, it is folly not to work for it with all your might.
  • It is no use saying, 'We are doing our best.' You have got to succeed in doing what is necessary.
  • Moral of the Work. In war: resolution. In defeat: defiance. In victory: magnanimity. In peace: goodwill.
  • Never in the field of human conflict was so much owed by so many to so few.
  • Never, never, never give up.
  • No folly is more costly than the folly of intolerant idealism.
  • One ought never to turn one's back on a threatened danger and try to run away from it. If you do that, you will double the danger. But if you meet it promptly and without flinching, you will reduce the danger by half. Never run away from anything. Never!
  • Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery.
  • Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.
  • The first quality that is needed is audacity.
  • The nose of the bulldog has been slanted backwards so that he can breathe without letting go.
  • The truth is incontrovertible, malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end; there it is.
  • There is no such thing as public opinion. There is only published opinion.
  • These are not dark days: these are great days - the greatest days our country has ever lived.
  • They are decided only to be undecided, resolved to be irresolute, adamant for drift, solid for fluidity, all-powerful to be impotent.
  • True genius resides in the capacity for evaluation of uncertain, hazardous, and conflicting information.
  • Victory at all costs, victory in spite of all terror, victory however long and hard the road may be; for without victory, there is no survival.
  • War is a game that is played with a smile. If you can't smile, grin. If you can't grin, keep out of the way till you can.
  • War is mainly a catalogue of blunders.
  • We shall defend our island, whatever the cost may be, we shall fight on the beaches, we shall fight on the landing grounds, we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall fight in the hills; we shall never surrender.
  • We shall draw from the heart of suffering itself the means of inspiration and survival.
  • When the eagles are silent the parrots begin to jabber.
  • When you are winning a war almost everything that happens can be claimed to be right and wise.
  • You have enemies? Good. That means you've stood up for something, sometime in your life.

Ronald Reagan Quotes

  • "The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant: It's just that they know so much that isn't so."
  • Above all, we must realize that no arsenal, or no weapon in the arsenals of the world, is so formidable as the will and moral courage of free men and women. It is a weapon our adversaries in today's world do not have.
  • All the waste in a year from a nuclear power plant can be stored under a desk.
  • Approximately 80% of our air pollution stems from hydrocarbons released by vegetation, so let's not go overboard in setting and enforcing tough emission standards from man-made sources
  • Come here to this gate! Mr. Gorbachev, open this gate! Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall!
  • Concentrated power has always been the enemy of liberty.
  • Double, no triple, our troubles and we'd still be better off than any other people on earth. It is time that we recognized that ours was, in truth, a noble cause.
  • Facts are stupid things.
  • Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn't pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same.
  • Freedom prospers when religion is vibrant and the rule of law under God is acknowledged.
  • Government exists to protect us from each other. Where government has gone beyond its limits is in deciding to protect us from ourselves.
  • Governments tend not to solve problems, only to rearrange them.
  • History teaches that war begins when governments believe the price of aggression is cheap.
  • How can a president not be an actor?
  • How do you tell a communist? Well, it's someone who reads Marx and Lenin. And how do you tell an anti-Communist? It's someone who understands Marx and Lenin.
  • I have wondered at times what the Ten Commandments would have looked like if Moses had run them through the US Congress.
  • I will stand on, and continue to use, the figures I have used, because I believe they are correct. Now, I'm not going to deny that you don't now and then slip up on something; no one bats a thousand.
  • In Israel, free men and women are every day demonstrating the power of courage and faith. Back in 1948 when Israel was founded, pundits claimed the new country could never survive. Today, no one questions that. Israel is a land of stability and democracy in a region of tryanny and unrest.
  • Let us ask ourselves; "What kind of people do we think we are?".
  • Man is not free unless government is limited.
  • My philosophy of life is that if we make up our mind what we are going to make of our lives, then work hard toward that goal, we never lose - somehow we win out.
  • No mother would ever willingly sacrifice her sons for territorial gain, for economic advantage, for ideology.
  • Of the four wars in my lifetime, none came about because the U.S. was too strong.
  • Our forbearance should never be misunderstood. Our reluctance for conflict should not be misjudged as a failure of will. When action is required to preserve our national security, we will act.
  • Protecting the rights of even the least individual among us is basically the only excuse the government has for even existing.
  • Some people wonder all their lives if they've made a difference. The Marines don't have that problem.
  • The ultimate determinant in the struggle now going on for the world will not be bombs and rockets but a test of wills and ideas - a trial of spiritual resolve: the values we hold, the beliefs we cherish and the ideals to which we are dedicated.
  • The United Sates has much to offer the third world war.
  • There are no easy answers' but there are simple answers. We must have the courage to do what we know is morally right.
  • To paraphrase Winston Churchill, I did not take the oath I have just taken with the intention of presiding over the dissolution of the world's strongest economy.
  • Today we did what we had to do. They counted on America to be passive. They counted wrong.
  • We are never defeated unless we give up on God.
  • We have the duty to protect the life of an unborn child.
  • We must reject the idea that every time a law's broken, society is guilty rather than the lawbreaker. It is time to restore the American precept that each individual is accountable for his actions.
  • We will always remember. We will always be proud. We will always be prepared, so we will always be free.
  • Within the covers of the Bible are the answers for all the problems men face.
  • You know, if I listened to Michael Dukakis long enough, I would be convinced we're in an economic downturn and people are homeless and going without food and medical attention and that we've got to do something about the unemployed.

Eleanor Roosevelt Quotes

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