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Friday, December 30, 2011

WordPress Stifles Discussion of Bare Naked Islam

The WordPress Forum thread about BNI has been closed, the last word being: "Now that we have descended into pointless name-calling I am closing this thread.". who "descended into pointless name calling?

by lettershometoyou:

It's really hard to form an opinion of BNI without having read the site.

But the extremist, bigoted, racist views expressed here give a good idea of the kind of whacko it attracted.

Gleaned from the sickening streak of hate this thread contains:

There is no such thing as a moderate Muslim.

Such lies!

I live an work with Muslim people, and find them solid, upstanding people who wish the world no harm.

There are extremists everywhere. They're the problem, not average Muslims.

The landing page of that blog does not indicate a political or philosophical knowledge of or orientation toward Islam and related issues. The author admits not having enough knowledge to judge BNI, then he launches into the forum participants with argumentum ad hominem. Evidently lettershometoyou is too indolent to search for the Yahoo cache of BNI and see it for himself. Instead of doing due diligence, he launches:

extremist
bigoted
racist
whacko
lies

Only one quote is cited: "no such thing as a moderate Muslim", which is dismissed with the author's narrow personal experience which he expands by generalization to encompass the ummah-al-Islamiyya. It is evident that the author is unaware of Allah's Qur'anic injunctions against equal and inferior relationships with Kuffar. Muslims are strictly prohibited from being friends with disbelievers except to deceive them for their own personal safety if a threat is perceived.

3:28. Let not the believers take the disbelievers as Auliyâ (supporters, helpers, etc.) instead of the believers, and whoever does that will never be helped by Allâh in any way, except if you indeed fear a danger from them. And Allâh warns you against Himself (His Punishment), and to Allâh is the final return.

The Prohibition of Supporting the Disbelievers

Allah prohibited His believing servants from becoming supporters of the disbelievers, or to take them as comrades with whom they develop friendships, rather than the believers. [...] (unless you indeed fear a danger from them) meaning, except those believers who in some areas or times fear for their safety from the disbelievers. In this case, such believers are allowed to show friendship to the disbelievers outwardly, but never inwardly. For instance, Al-Bukhari recorded that Abu Ad-Darda' said, "We smile in the face of some people although our hearts curse them.'' Al-Bukhari said that Al-Hasan said, "The Tuqyah is allowed until the Day of Resurrection.''

Islam is not moderate, it is genocidally violent, by design. To fully comprehend the fatal fact, one must read the following citations from Islam's canonical texts.

Moe divided Muslims into two classes: believers and hypocrites. Those who implement Allah's genocidal imperatives are believers, those who shirk jihad are hypocrites. Do not take my word for this, I am not an authority; take Allah's word for it, and Moe's. Believers fight in Allah's cause, killing others and being killed. The rest are either hypocrites in whose hearts is a disease or have not been called to fight yet.

Lettershometoyou followed up with another post:

What you extremists fail to realise and hope the rest of us will ignore is the fact that 99.99% of all Muslims, Jews, Christians, Buddhists and others just want to get on with the daily business of getting through life without harming other people. You can hang on to your hatreds all your like and hope you'll attract more followers by spreading more lies, but you can't accept that basic fact.

Evidently lettershometoyou is omniscient, knowing what everybody wants while we are "extremists [...] haters [...] spreading lies". How will he explain the conquests of Arabia, India, Turkey, North Africa and South East Europe? How did a tiny minority of extremist Muslims conquer nearly half the world without majority support?

Lettershometoyou angered an EDL member, trinovante, who responded in kind.

@lettershometoyou,by god you are a fool !

You CLEARLY know nothing of Islamic history,the Qur'an or Hadith you odious
little man.Still you have some "Muslim's who you work with",so you must know
everything about Islamic doctrine?

You dangerous left wing idiot.

The thread ended with one last left wing slur which I will not quote here. I fully understand why WordPress is sensitive about this issue and wants to squelch discussion of it. Succumbing to intimidation to shut down a major traffic generator must be very painful. If name calling was an issue, the forum moderator would have deleted the four offending posts and allowed the thread to continue.

I did a little research on BNI and found some interesting statistics for the blog.

source	value	site visits	revenue	Alexa
http://kolorob.net/d/www.barenakedislam.wordpress.com	475.57	1393
http://value3w.com/barenakedislam.wordpress.com	49,122.00	3064	67.00	48446
http://www.webzi.info/barenakedislam.wordpress.com	38,681.00	2428	53.00	61666
http://websitevaluecheck.net/barenakedislam.wordpress.com	48,910.00	3064	67.00	48446
http://webhost-a.com/www/barenakedislam.wordpress.com	73,736.00
http://bizinformation.co/www.barenakedislam.wordpress.com	286,934.48	6,352
http://www.findwebstats.com/barenakedislam.wordpress.com	26148.6		35.82
http://www.siteoutlooker.com/barenakedislam.wordpress.com	49,122.00	3,064	67.00
http://whois-domain-find.com/info/www.barenakedislam.wordpress.com	110,732,390 *		152,381*
http://webnamesinfo.com/barenakedislam.wordpress.com	41,238.00	2,585	56.00

* These numbers are so unrealistic that I presume they apply to the entire WordPress domain, not to a single sub domain blog.

117,087 page views/month

Those numbers ain't trivial. Even if we accept the lowest evaluation, a sub domain name worth nearly $500,. is too good to waste if it is bringing 100K visitors to WordPress every month. At snooper.wordpress,com, the post about BNI received 25 page views, while the average daily page views for the blog has been less than 20 this week. At Islam Exposed, it got 16 hits. Page ranks for searches for Bare Naked Islam ranged from 9 to 45 in the Google serps. The post at Bloggersbase had 125 views.

If three thousand people are learning the truth about the doctrines & practices of Islam every day, its no wonder that CAIR is determined to silence it. But the blog's creator is dedicated, motivated & persistent. She will rebuild the blog, bigger and better than before and the publicity resulting from CAIR's intimidation tactics will increase the size of the blog's audience.

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My Favorite Speeches and Other Items of Interest

George Bush's March 28, 2007 Discusses Economy, War on Terror During Remarks to the National Cattlemen's Beef Association;http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2007/03/20070328-2.html
Mitch McConnell's March 15, 2007 Funding For Troops, Not Timelines for Retreat; http://mcconnell.senate.gov/record.cfm?id=270747&start=1
Ronald Reagan's June 12, 1987 Tear Down This Wall Speech; http://www.reaganfoundation.org/reagan/speeches/wall.asp
Vice President Cheney's March 12, 2007 Remarks at the AIPAC 2007 Policy Conference; http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2007/03/20070312.html

Winston Churchill Quotes

A prisoner of war is a man who tries to kill you and fails, and then asks you not to kill him.
Although personally I am quite content with existing explosives, I feel we must not stand in the path of improvement.
Although prepared for martyrdom, I preferred that it be postponed.
Attitude is a little thing that makes a big difference.
Battles are won by slaughter and maneuver. The greater the general, the more he contributes in maneuver, the less he demands in slaughter.
Danger - if you meet it promptly and without flinching - you will reduce the danger by half. Never run away from anything. Never!
I always seem to get inspiration and renewed vitality by contact with this great novel land of yours which sticks up out of the Atlantic.
I am an optimist. It does not seem too much use being anything else.
I have nothing to offer but blood, toil, tears and sweat.
I like a man who grins when he fights.
I was only the servant of my country and had I, at any moment, failed to express her unflinching resolve to fight and conquer, I should at once have been rightly cast aside.
If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time-a tremendous whack.
In war as in life, it is often necessary when some cherished scheme has failed, to take up the best alternative open, and if so, it is folly not to work for it with all your might.
It is no use saying, 'We are doing our best.' You have got to succeed in doing what is necessary.
Moral of the Work. In war: resolution. In defeat: defiance. In victory: magnanimity. In peace: goodwill.
Never in the field of human conflict was so much owed by so many to so few.
Never, never, never give up.
No folly is more costly than the folly of intolerant idealism.
One ought never to turn one's back on a threatened danger and try to run away from it. If you do that, you will double the danger. But if you meet it promptly and without flinching, you will reduce the danger by half. Never run away from anything. Never!
Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery.
Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.
The first quality that is needed is audacity.
The nose of the bulldog has been slanted backwards so that he can breathe without letting go.
The truth is incontrovertible, malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end; there it is.
There is no such thing as public opinion. There is only published opinion.
These are not dark days: these are great days - the greatest days our country has ever lived.
They are decided only to be undecided, resolved to be irresolute, adamant for drift, solid for fluidity, all-powerful to be impotent.
True genius resides in the capacity for evaluation of uncertain, hazardous, and conflicting information.
Victory at all costs, victory in spite of all terror, victory however long and hard the road may be; for without victory, there is no survival.
War is a game that is played with a smile. If you can't smile, grin. If you can't grin, keep out of the way till you can.
War is mainly a catalogue of blunders.
We shall defend our island, whatever the cost may be, we shall fight on the beaches, we shall fight on the landing grounds, we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall fight in the hills; we shall never surrender.
We shall draw from the heart of suffering itself the means of inspiration and survival.
When the eagles are silent the parrots begin to jabber.
When you are winning a war almost everything that happens can be claimed to be right and wise.
You have enemies? Good. That means you've stood up for something, sometime in your life.

Ronald Reagan Quotes

"The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant: It's just that they know so much that isn't so."
Above all, we must realize that no arsenal, or no weapon in the arsenals of the world, is so formidable as the will and moral courage of free men and women. It is a weapon our adversaries in today's world do not have.
All the waste in a year from a nuclear power plant can be stored under a desk.
Approximately 80% of our air pollution stems from hydrocarbons released by vegetation, so let's not go overboard in setting and enforcing tough emission standards from man-made sources
Come here to this gate! Mr. Gorbachev, open this gate! Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall!
Concentrated power has always been the enemy of liberty.
Double, no triple, our troubles and we'd still be better off than any other people on earth. It is time that we recognized that ours was, in truth, a noble cause.
Facts are stupid things.
Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn't pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same.
Freedom prospers when religion is vibrant and the rule of law under God is acknowledged.
Government exists to protect us from each other. Where government has gone beyond its limits is in deciding to protect us from ourselves.
Governments tend not to solve problems, only to rearrange them.
History teaches that war begins when governments believe the price of aggression is cheap.
How can a president not be an actor?
How do you tell a communist? Well, it's someone who reads Marx and Lenin. And how do you tell an anti-Communist? It's someone who understands Marx and Lenin.
I have wondered at times what the Ten Commandments would have looked like if Moses had run them through the US Congress.
I will stand on, and continue to use, the figures I have used, because I believe they are correct. Now, I'm not going to deny that you don't now and then slip up on something; no one bats a thousand.
In Israel, free men and women are every day demonstrating the power of courage and faith. Back in 1948 when Israel was founded, pundits claimed the new country could never survive. Today, no one questions that. Israel is a land of stability and democracy in a region of tryanny and unrest.
Let us ask ourselves; "What kind of people do we think we are?".
Man is not free unless government is limited.
My philosophy of life is that if we make up our mind what we are going to make of our lives, then work hard toward that goal, we never lose - somehow we win out.
No mother would ever willingly sacrifice her sons for territorial gain, for economic advantage, for ideology.
Of the four wars in my lifetime, none came about because the U.S. was too strong.
Our forbearance should never be misunderstood. Our reluctance for conflict should not be misjudged as a failure of will. When action is required to preserve our national security, we will act.
Protecting the rights of even the least individual among us is basically the only excuse the government has for even existing.
Some people wonder all their lives if they've made a difference. The Marines don't have that problem.
The ultimate determinant in the struggle now going on for the world will not be bombs and rockets but a test of wills and ideas - a trial of spiritual resolve: the values we hold, the beliefs we cherish and the ideals to which we are dedicated.
The United Sates has much to offer the third world war.
There are no easy answers' but there are simple answers. We must have the courage to do what we know is morally right.
To paraphrase Winston Churchill, I did not take the oath I have just taken with the intention of presiding over the dissolution of the world's strongest economy.
Today we did what we had to do. They counted on America to be passive. They counted wrong.
We are never defeated unless we give up on God.
We have the duty to protect the life of an unborn child.
We must reject the idea that every time a law's broken, society is guilty rather than the lawbreaker. It is time to restore the American precept that each individual is accountable for his actions.
We will always remember. We will always be proud. We will always be prepared, so we will always be free.
Within the covers of the Bible are the answers for all the problems men face.
You know, if I listened to Michael Dukakis long enough, I would be convinced we're in an economic downturn and people are homeless and going without food and medical attention and that we've got to do something about the unemployed.