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Friday, July 16, 2010

Geller vs Ramey

Pamela Geller posted a video of a joint interview with Ibrahim Ramey, who said some things that must be rebutted.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcF9XxyZ55A&feature=player_embedded#at=13

It goes sour for me right off the bat when Ibrahim Ramey is introduced as affiliated with the Muslim American Society. After seeing the results of Balkanization in Czechoslovakia & Yugoslavia, I am compelled to say that I am an American. If you are a hypenated-American, and you ain't happy here, then its time to go home. So, go.

Two and one half minutes into the video, Ramey says that 9/11 was a "criminal attack, not an Islamic attack". That malicious malarkey raises my blood pressure significantly. I am PO'd. It is a good thing I was not within reach of him when he said that, because it would have precipitated a criminal act. That attack was planned over a span of eight years, by Muslims, motivated by the damnable doctrines of conquest, terror and genocide enshrined in the Qur'an and exemplified in the sunnah of their damned Profit. That attack was carried out by Muslims, who pronounced the takbir while slitting the throats of the flight crews.

When some damned Muslim slits a pilot's throat in the name of Allah and you assert that his act was not Islamic, I need to reach out and wipe the smirk off your face. It is equivalent to saying that the conquest of India and genocide of the Hindus was not Islamic or that the Assyrian & Armenian genocides were not Islamic. The denial of obvious truth is malicious and malignant. It must be repudiated.

Next, Ramey says that Muslims have First Amendment rights, like other Americans, in terms of freedom of religion. Yes, they do, because the founders of this nation, in their haste & process of compromise, and not anticipating that Muslims might immigrate at some future time, neglected to include a definition of religion in the Bill of Rights. Legitimate religions have spiritual and benevolent missions, they do good, not harm. Islam has a mercenary mission and is responsible for the early deaths of 270*106 people in the last 1400 years.

Is there a right to wage war upon us because we do not submit to your 'religion'? Is there a right to kill us, rape our widows, enslave our orphans and seize our property? All of those evils are inseverable parts of the practice of Islam and can neither be neglected nor expunged from it. If Jihad is possible in a given year, and is not performed, all who knew of the obligation are in sin.

If there is a right to practice Islam, then our rights to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness are voided because, as Moe said, our blood and property are not sacred to Muslims.

Next, he issued a denial of collective guilt. I did not hear Geller or anyone else assert that all Muslims are guilty of the Abomination. In my view, all who admired the act, who sympathized with its perpetrators, who celebrated or experienced schadenfreude share some the guilt. If you are a Muslim, and you disclaim that guilt, then in order to believe you I need to hear you sincerely abjure Surat al-Anfal, at-Taubah, al-Fath & as-Saff. You won't do that, because you can't do it and remain Muslim, so I will never believe you.

To add insult to injury, he asserts that Muslims are trying to establish a "new relationship with America" and "new relationships with the people of the United States. How can one discuss this without profanity? If they are Americans, then they are citizens of America and fellow citizens with us. No other relationship is possible. If they are Muslims, then they are predators and we are prey. Which are they???

He says that there are "numerous memorials" to the decedents. Show me an enumerated list, please; I believe that the politicians are still haggling over the design and execution of the Ground Zero Memorial, and the one in Pennsylvania is a crescent memorializing the ideology of the perpetrators, not the victims. He does not want to conflate the idea of a memorial into that of the right of Muslims to have a Mosque. When Muslims conquered India, they tore down the temples and replaced them with Mosques. They built two Mosques on the rubble of the Jewish Temple. They turned churches in Constantinople into Mosques. They build Mosques as a symbol of Islamic supremacy and that is exactly what the Cordoba House proposal is. They are rubbing our faces in the blood and decomposing flesh of the victims! If the insult does not bring you to the brink of incontinence, you may be taking too many tranquilizers.

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Friday, May 21, 2010

Geller vs Ghouse

Pam Geller wrote an article published at Big Journalism, about CAIR's attempt to silence her message to an upcoming Tea Party convention. In that article, she included a debate she had with Mike Ghouse on Sean Hannity's radio show. The audio stream is accompanied by text and images from the Abomination. I want you to listen to that debate. I want you to hear the disgusting lies spewed by mike Ghouse. I want you to see those horrific images and relive that awful September morning. I want the anger and outrage to rise in your throat until you stand up and curse Islam.

I want you to resolve never to vote for a candidate for high office who does not clearly condemn Moe's War Cult for what it is. I want you to have your eyes and ears open, and your mind clear, ready to detect the spew of lies that flows whenever the subject of Islam heats up. The truth will not make you free if you do not recognize it and reject the lies which oppose it.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kk6efjmxK_g&feature=player_embedded


  • Well, Pamela, first of all everybody is crying out loud for Muslims to take the initiative to bring about a positive change and this cultural center that is being built is to do precisely that, to give a voice to the moderate Muslims so we can subside the extremists among us. It is good- et should be [unintelligible] by every American that moderate Muslims take charge and speak up. And this cultural center will house--one part of the cultural center is a prayer place, but most of it is talking about pluralism and how to get along, learning about each other and what this center is gonna do is a very welcome thing to do. And as for your comment about Muslims and jihad, its one of the most mistranslated verses that you're couching on for the last eight or nine centuries. Look at the Mohammad Asad translation and eighteen other translations. you are going by what was wrongly translated, not rightly translated, Pamela.
  • We should not tolerate any teachings of Jihad, anywhere in the world, not only in America. Muslims turn up against that kind of teaching.
  • [About Taqiyya] It is not in the Qur'an, you can't lie to the public, Pamela...
    • How will a Mosque, where Muslims gather to pray for our destruction, make any positive change in the damnable doctrines of Islam?
    • "Moderate Muslims" is an alias for what Moe called hypocrites, whose Islam goes no deeper than their throats, who are to be defeated and gathered into Hell along with us. The meek do not inherit the earth while the aggressors are running it.
    • Pluralism? Islam demands a total monopoly on faith and practice, it is not multicultural.
    • How to get along? No, its how to conquer and dominate.
    • Jihad is ordained for Muslims, made mandatory by Surah al-Baqarah 216.
    • [2:216]
      Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you, and that ye love a thing which is bad for you. But God knoweth, and ye know not.


      * v.216 : To fight in the cause of Truth is one of the highest form of charity. What can you offer that is more precious than your own life? But here again the limitations come in. If you are a mere brawler, or a selfish aggressive person, or a vainglorious bully, you deserve the highest censure. If you offer your life to the righteous Iman, who is only guided by God, you are an unselfish here. God knows the value of things better than you do. [Abdullah Yusuf Ali]
    • [2:216]
      FIGHTING is ordained for you, even though it be hateful to you; but it may well be that you hate a thing the while it is good for you, and it may well be that you love a thing the while it is bad for you: and God knows, whereas you do not know.


      * v.216 : Insofar as it relates to fighting, this verse must be read in conjunction with 2:190-193 and 22:39: but it expresses, in addition, a general truth applicable to many situations.[Mohammad Asad]
Surah Al-Baqarah deals with defensive jihad, when Dar ul-Islam is threatened with invasion. Surah Al-Anfal & Surah At-Taubah are about offensive jihad, when Islam takes the aggressive initiative.
  • 3:28. Let not the believers take the disbelievers as Auliyâ (supporters, helpers, etc.) instead of the believers, and whoever does that will never be helped by Allâh in any way, except if you indeed fear a danger from them. And Allâh warns you against Himself (His Punishment), and to Allâh is the final return.
    • Let not the believers take the disbelievers as patrons, rather than, that is, instead of, the believers — for whoever does that, that is, [whoever] takes them as patrons, does not belong to, the religion of, God in anyway — unless you protect yourselves against them, as a safeguard (tuqātan, ‘as a safeguard’, is the verbal noun from taqiyyatan), that is to say, [unless] you fear something, in which case you may show patronage to them through words, but not in your hearts: this was before the hegemony of Islam and [the dispensation] applies to any individual residing in a land with no say in it. God warns you, He instills fear in you, of His Self, [warning] that He may be wrathful with you if you take them as patrons; and to God is the journey’s end, the return, and He will requite you. [Jalalayn]
  • 16:106. Whoever disbelieved in Allâh after his belief, except him who is forced thereto and whose heart is at rest with Faith but such as open their breasts to disbelief, on them is wrath from Allâh, and theirs will be a great torment.

Tafsir al-Jalalayn is fairly terse, yet it clarifies the meaning of verses sufficiently. Ibn Kathir's Tafsir is more verbose and one of the most accepted. http://www.qtafsir.com/ has a search engine with which you can look up verses by the Surah: Ayeh numbers. Here are the titles of the tafsir most relevant to this issue. Clicking them will display the Arabic text, related ahadith and Ibn Kathir's explanations.

So terrorism is harram? Explain away these tafsir which explain 8:60 and 8:12!!


Riyad us-Saliheen, Book 11, Chapter 234 presents the most relevant ahadith with commentary. Shari'ah is based on both sources. Its most accepted codification is Reliance of the Traveller.

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My Favorite Speeches and Other Items of Interest

  • George Bush's March 28, 2007 Discusses Economy, War on Terror During Remarks to the National Cattlemen's Beef Association;http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2007/03/20070328-2.html
  • Mitch McConnell's March 15, 2007 Funding For Troops, Not Timelines for Retreat; http://mcconnell.senate.gov/record.cfm?id=270747&start=1
  • Ronald Reagan's June 12, 1987 Tear Down This Wall Speech; http://www.reaganfoundation.org/reagan/speeches/wall.asp
  • Vice President Cheney's March 12, 2007 Remarks at the AIPAC 2007 Policy Conference; http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2007/03/20070312.html

Winston Churchill Quotes

  • A prisoner of war is a man who tries to kill you and fails, and then asks you not to kill him.
  • Although personally I am quite content with existing explosives, I feel we must not stand in the path of improvement.
  • Although prepared for martyrdom, I preferred that it be postponed.
  • Attitude is a little thing that makes a big difference.
  • Battles are won by slaughter and maneuver. The greater the general, the more he contributes in maneuver, the less he demands in slaughter.
  • Danger - if you meet it promptly and without flinching - you will reduce the danger by half. Never run away from anything. Never!
  • I always seem to get inspiration and renewed vitality by contact with this great novel land of yours which sticks up out of the Atlantic.
  • I am an optimist. It does not seem too much use being anything else.
  • I have nothing to offer but blood, toil, tears and sweat.
  • I like a man who grins when he fights.
  • I was only the servant of my country and had I, at any moment, failed to express her unflinching resolve to fight and conquer, I should at once have been rightly cast aside.
  • If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time-a tremendous whack.
  • In war as in life, it is often necessary when some cherished scheme has failed, to take up the best alternative open, and if so, it is folly not to work for it with all your might.
  • It is no use saying, 'We are doing our best.' You have got to succeed in doing what is necessary.
  • Moral of the Work. In war: resolution. In defeat: defiance. In victory: magnanimity. In peace: goodwill.
  • Never in the field of human conflict was so much owed by so many to so few.
  • Never, never, never give up.
  • No folly is more costly than the folly of intolerant idealism.
  • One ought never to turn one's back on a threatened danger and try to run away from it. If you do that, you will double the danger. But if you meet it promptly and without flinching, you will reduce the danger by half. Never run away from anything. Never!
  • Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery.
  • Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.
  • The first quality that is needed is audacity.
  • The nose of the bulldog has been slanted backwards so that he can breathe without letting go.
  • The truth is incontrovertible, malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end; there it is.
  • There is no such thing as public opinion. There is only published opinion.
  • These are not dark days: these are great days - the greatest days our country has ever lived.
  • They are decided only to be undecided, resolved to be irresolute, adamant for drift, solid for fluidity, all-powerful to be impotent.
  • True genius resides in the capacity for evaluation of uncertain, hazardous, and conflicting information.
  • Victory at all costs, victory in spite of all terror, victory however long and hard the road may be; for without victory, there is no survival.
  • War is a game that is played with a smile. If you can't smile, grin. If you can't grin, keep out of the way till you can.
  • War is mainly a catalogue of blunders.
  • We shall defend our island, whatever the cost may be, we shall fight on the beaches, we shall fight on the landing grounds, we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall fight in the hills; we shall never surrender.
  • We shall draw from the heart of suffering itself the means of inspiration and survival.
  • When the eagles are silent the parrots begin to jabber.
  • When you are winning a war almost everything that happens can be claimed to be right and wise.
  • You have enemies? Good. That means you've stood up for something, sometime in your life.

Ronald Reagan Quotes

  • "The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant: It's just that they know so much that isn't so."
  • Above all, we must realize that no arsenal, or no weapon in the arsenals of the world, is so formidable as the will and moral courage of free men and women. It is a weapon our adversaries in today's world do not have.
  • All the waste in a year from a nuclear power plant can be stored under a desk.
  • Approximately 80% of our air pollution stems from hydrocarbons released by vegetation, so let's not go overboard in setting and enforcing tough emission standards from man-made sources
  • Come here to this gate! Mr. Gorbachev, open this gate! Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall!
  • Concentrated power has always been the enemy of liberty.
  • Double, no triple, our troubles and we'd still be better off than any other people on earth. It is time that we recognized that ours was, in truth, a noble cause.
  • Facts are stupid things.
  • Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn't pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same.
  • Freedom prospers when religion is vibrant and the rule of law under God is acknowledged.
  • Government exists to protect us from each other. Where government has gone beyond its limits is in deciding to protect us from ourselves.
  • Governments tend not to solve problems, only to rearrange them.
  • History teaches that war begins when governments believe the price of aggression is cheap.
  • How can a president not be an actor?
  • How do you tell a communist? Well, it's someone who reads Marx and Lenin. And how do you tell an anti-Communist? It's someone who understands Marx and Lenin.
  • I have wondered at times what the Ten Commandments would have looked like if Moses had run them through the US Congress.
  • I will stand on, and continue to use, the figures I have used, because I believe they are correct. Now, I'm not going to deny that you don't now and then slip up on something; no one bats a thousand.
  • In Israel, free men and women are every day demonstrating the power of courage and faith. Back in 1948 when Israel was founded, pundits claimed the new country could never survive. Today, no one questions that. Israel is a land of stability and democracy in a region of tryanny and unrest.
  • Let us ask ourselves; "What kind of people do we think we are?".
  • Man is not free unless government is limited.
  • My philosophy of life is that if we make up our mind what we are going to make of our lives, then work hard toward that goal, we never lose - somehow we win out.
  • No mother would ever willingly sacrifice her sons for territorial gain, for economic advantage, for ideology.
  • Of the four wars in my lifetime, none came about because the U.S. was too strong.
  • Our forbearance should never be misunderstood. Our reluctance for conflict should not be misjudged as a failure of will. When action is required to preserve our national security, we will act.
  • Protecting the rights of even the least individual among us is basically the only excuse the government has for even existing.
  • Some people wonder all their lives if they've made a difference. The Marines don't have that problem.
  • The ultimate determinant in the struggle now going on for the world will not be bombs and rockets but a test of wills and ideas - a trial of spiritual resolve: the values we hold, the beliefs we cherish and the ideals to which we are dedicated.
  • The United Sates has much to offer the third world war.
  • There are no easy answers' but there are simple answers. We must have the courage to do what we know is morally right.
  • To paraphrase Winston Churchill, I did not take the oath I have just taken with the intention of presiding over the dissolution of the world's strongest economy.
  • Today we did what we had to do. They counted on America to be passive. They counted wrong.
  • We are never defeated unless we give up on God.
  • We have the duty to protect the life of an unborn child.
  • We must reject the idea that every time a law's broken, society is guilty rather than the lawbreaker. It is time to restore the American precept that each individual is accountable for his actions.
  • We will always remember. We will always be proud. We will always be prepared, so we will always be free.
  • Within the covers of the Bible are the answers for all the problems men face.
  • You know, if I listened to Michael Dukakis long enough, I would be convinced we're in an economic downturn and people are homeless and going without food and medical attention and that we've got to do something about the unemployed.

Eleanor Roosevelt Quotes

  • No one can make you feel inferior without your consent

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