The Creep Craps Again: Islamic Diversion Tactics

A Creep Crept Into The Crypt & Crapped revealed how the self-righteous idiot challenged me to cite an ayeh commanding him to attack his neighbors. I responded with Al-Taubah 123 and Ibn Kathir's Tafsir of that ayeh. Observe the idiot's response, how it can only attack the messenger & divert attention; it can not refute the clear & obvious imperative of Allah as expressed in 9:123

Quote me a SINGLE verse from the Qur’an that IN ITS CONTEXT tells me, an American Muslim, to wage war upon my non-Muslim neighbors. You can do no such thing.[…] Shibli Zaman | Homepage | 03.20.08 - 3:25 am | #

9:123. O you who believe! Fight those of the disbelievers who are close to you, and let them find harshness in you, and know that Allâh is with those who are the Al-Muttaqûn (the pious - see V.2:2).

I met its challenge in ample form, with complete documentation. In this post I include links to ten parallel translations for most ayat I cite so that you can see for yourself that the choice of wording varies but the meaning does not.

• The brazen hypocrisy in the comments reproduced below sticks out like a sore toe. It is obvious, without concealment.
• Dragging in the Hebrew scriptures is argumentum Tu quoque; a diversion, not a defense. The O.T. imperatives cited were limited to specific tribes, times and places. Islam's imperatives have no such limitation. They are outcome based fight...until loops
• 8:39 And fight them until there is no more Fitnah ...and the religion (worship) will all be for Allâh Alone...
• 9:29 Fight against those who (1) believe not in Allâh, ... among the people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians), until they pay the Jizyah with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.
• Jihad is defined by the translators of the Noble Qur'an as (holy fighting) in Allâh’s Cause (with full force of numbers and weaponry) is given the utmost importance in Islâm and is one of its pillar (on which it stands). By Jihâd Islâm is established, Allâh’s Word is made superior, (His Word being Lâ ilaha illallâh which means none has the right to be worshipped but Allâh), and His Religion (Islâm) is propagated.
• Jihad is obligatory, not optional.
• 2:216 Jihâd (holy fighting in Allâh's Cause) is ordained for you (Muslims) though you dislike it, and it may be that you dislike a thing which is good for you and that you like a thing which is bad for you. Allâh knows but you do not know.
• Jihad is inherent in the relationship between Allah and Muslims.
• 9:111 Verily, Allâh has purchased of the believers their lives and their properties; for the price that theirs shall be the Paradise. They fight in Allâh's Cause, so they kill (others) and are killed. It is a promise in truth which is binding on Him in the Taurât (Torah) and the Injeel (Gospel) and the Qur'ân. And who is truer to his covenant than Allâh? Then rejoice in the bargain which you have concluded. That is the supreme success .
• Bargain? What bargain? They sold their souls for a false promise, that's the bargain. The deal is repeated in As-Saff.
• 61:10..13 O You who believe! Shall I guide you to a commerce that will save you from a painful torment. That you believe in Allâh and His Messenger (Muhammad), and that you strive hard and fight in the Cause of Allâh with your wealth and your lives, that will be better for you, if you but know! (If you do so) He will forgive you your sins, and admit you into Gardens under which rivers flow, and pleasant dwelling in Gardens of 'Adn ­ Eternity ['Adn (Edn) Paradise], that is indeed the great success...
• Jihad involves genocide.
• 8:67 It is not for a Prophet that he should have prisoners of war (and free them with ransom) until he had made a great slaughter (among his enemies) in the land. You desire the good of this world (i.e. the money of ransom for freeing the captives), but Allâh desires (for you) the Hereafter. And Allâh is All-Mighty, All-Wise.
• 47:4 So, when you meet (in fight Jihâd in Allâh's Cause), those who disbelieve smite at their necks till when you have killed and wounded many of them...
• Moe practiced genocide.
• Abu Dawud Book 38, Number 4390: [...] I was among the captives of Banu Qurayzah. They (the Companions) examined us, and those who had begun to grow hair (pubes) were killed, and those who had not were not killed. I was among those who had not grown hair.
• Bukhari Volume 5, Book 59, Number 512 [...]The Prophet had their warriors killed, their offspring and woman taken as captives. Safiya was amongst the captives, She first came in the share of Dahya Alkali but later on she belonged to the Prophet . [...]
• Jihad involves terrorism.
• 3:151 We shall cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve...
• 8:12 (Remember) when your Lord inspired the angels, "Verily, I am with you, so keep firm those who have believed. I will cast terror into the hearts of those who have disbelieved, so strike them over the necks, and smite over all their fingers and toes."
• 8:60 [...] to strike terror into (the hearts of) the enemies, of God and your enemies,[...]
• 33:26 And those of the people of the Scripture who backed them (the disbelievers) Allâh brought them down from their forts and cast terror into their hearts, (so that) a group (of them) you killed, and a group (of them) you made captives.

• Moe was not ashamed of being a terrorist, he bragged about it!
• Bukhari Volume 1, Book 7, Number 331 [...] Allah made me victorious by awe, (by His frightening my enemies) for a distance of one month's journey.[...]
• Bukhari Volume 4, Book 52, Number 220: [...] Allah's Apostle said, "I have been sent with the shortest expressions bearing the widest meanings, and I have been made victorious with terror (cast in the hearts of the enemy)[...]
• Moe's arrogant attitude is on record; he's no saint!
• Bukhari Ch 61 # 2756: ...It is mentioned from Ibn 'Umar from the Prophet, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, "My provision has been placed under the shadow of my spear, and abasement and humility have been placed on the one who disobeys my command.
• Islam's Sharia confirms the above listed damnable facts. The following quotes are fully documented at FOMI.
• The Muslim king will not be able to establish the honour of theism (tauhid) and the supremacy of Islam unless he strives with all his courage to overthrow infidelity and to slaugthers its leaders (imams), who in India are the Brahmans. He should make a firm resolve to overpower, capture, enslave and degrade the infidels. All the strength and power of the king and of the holy warriors of Islam should be concentrated in holy campaigns and holy wars; and they should risk themselves in the enterprise so that the true Faith may uproot the false creeds, and then it will look as if these false creeds had never existed because they have been deprived of all their glamour. […] [ Ziauddin Barani, d. 1357, historiker och politisk skriftställare i Indien. Fatawa-i Jahandari, cit. ur Mohammad Habib, The Political Theory of the Delhi Sultanate (Allahabad 1961), s. 46-7.]
• […] jihad is a fard al-kifaya, that is, that one must begin the fight against the enemy, even when he [the enemy] may not have taken the initiative to fight, because the Prophet […] early on […] allowed believers to defend themselves, later, however, he ordered them to take the initiative at certain times of the year, that is, at the end of the haram months, saying, ”Kill the idolaters wherever you find them” (Q9:5). He finally ordered fighting without limitations, at all times and in all places, saying, ”Fight those who do not believe in God, and in the Last Day” (Q9:29); there are also other [similar] verses on the subject. This shows that it is a fard al-kifaya. [ Molla Khosrew, d. 1480, hanafi. Kitab al-Gihad, övers. Nicola Melis, Trattato sulla guerra (Cagliari, Italien 2002), s. 95-6.]
• A brief account of the duties which are obligatory on the Imam and the Sultan with regard to (their offices of) the Imamate and the Sultanate. (s. 61)
  His sixth duty is to fight with those who opposed Islam. But before taking such action he should invite them to surrender and if they refuse then fight with them until they surrender or are obliged to compromise. (s. 62)
  You must be aware, that the literal meaning of Jihad is ”to strive” or ”to endeavour according to one’s ability and strength.” But in the religious sense it means ”to strive in war against the non-believers according to one’s ability and strength.” (s. 455)
  You must be aware, that Jihad against the non-believers is an obligation. As regards the Hanafite opinion it has been cited in the Hidaya that Jihad is a duty in general on all the Muslim community. If a group of Muslims observe this duty the rest of them are exempt from it; and if none of them observe it the whole community commits a sin for their negligence. [...] [ Fadl-Ullah bin Ruzbihan Isfahani, d. 1521, shafi’i. Suluk ul-Muluk (övers. Muslim Conduct of State, Lahore 1974) ]
• Islamic Holy war against followers of other religions, such as Jews, is required unless they convert to Islam or pay the poll tax. [ al-Amili, d. 1622, teolog under shah Abbas I. Jami’-i ’Abbasi: yakdawrah-i fiqh-i Farsi (Teheran 1980-talet), s. 153 f. ]
• It has become clear to my mind that the kingdom of heaven has predestined that kafirs should be reduced to a state of humiliation and treated with utter contempt. […]
  
  Oh Kings! Mala a’la urges you to draw your swords and not put them back in their sheaths again until Allah has separated the Muslims from the polytheists and the rebellious kafirs and the sinners are made absolutely feeble and helpless. […]
  
  Moreover, wherever there was even the slightest fear of a Muslim defeat, the Islamic army should be there to disperse infidels to all corners of the earth. Jihad should be their first priority, thereby ensuring the security of every Muslim. [ Shah Wali-Allah, d. 1762, teolog, sufi, politisk aktivist. Cit. ur Saiyid Athar Abbas Rizvi, Shah Wali-Allah and His Times (Canberra 1980), s. 294-6, 299, 301, 305. 0]

The fatal fact is that Islam is a mercenary & martial institution founded for Moe's personal emolument & empowerment. It has no beneficial purpose; it has no redeeming social value. It exemplifies imperialism, supremacism & triumphalism and poses an eternal, existential threat to the lives and liberties of all who reject it. The creep who crept in an crapped seeks to distract you from the fatal fact of Islam.

That fatal fact of Islam will immediately become clear to you if you will click the following links and read these critically important topics in Ibn Kathir's Tafsir.

• The Command to have Enmity towards the Disbelievers and to abandon supporting Them
• The Command to strike the Enemies' Necks, tighten Their Bonds, and then free Them either by an Act of Grace or for a Ransom
• The Order to fight until there is no more Fitnah
• Allah gives Victory to the Believing Group
• Permission to fight; this is the first Ayah of Jihad
• The Order for Jihad against the Disbelievers, the Closest, then the Farthest Areas
• The Order to fight to eradicate Shirk and Kufr
• The Order to fight People of the Scriptures until They give the Jizyah
• The Order for Jihad against the Disbelievers and Hypocrites
• The Good News that Muslims will conquer the Known World, and ultimately the Entire World
• The Good News that Muslims will Dominate the People of the Book
• The Good News that Islam shall prevail

Now, despite the creep's outrageous efforts at distraction, you know that every person who expresses admiration for, defends, praises, makes excuses for or refuses to curse & condemn Islam for the murder cult it is, is either a damned fool or a damned traitor to the human race. What will you do about it?

1. Will you rise up with me and disrespectfully demand that the Congress investigate Islam's canon of scripture & tradition?
2. Will you rise up with me and disrespectfully demand that Islam be outlawed, that Muslims be expelled and their institutions be closed?
3. Will you rise up with us and petition the World Court to ban Islam?
4. Will you rise up with me and petition the United Nations Security Council to investigate Islam's canon of scripture & tradition?
5. Will you rise up with me and petition Mel Gibson to document Islam's canon of scripture & tradition in a full length feature film? That would do more to inform our fellow citizens and plant the seeds of doubt & introspection among the Ummah than anything else.
6. Will you email those petitions to your contacts, exhorting them to sign and promote them?

Or will you sit there, silently, like a damned fool awaiting your destruction?

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Such truly “Christian” behavior for you to be frothing at the mouth and spewing incessant ad hominems like this.

1. Now, the poor beaten soul thinks that he can re-write history, much akin to what has happened in the Bible. Let me paste my challenge that he woefully fails in answering here:

   “Again, for the millionth time:

   IF YOUR BIBLE SAYS GOD COMMANDED THE HEBREWS TO SLAUGHTER MEN, WOMEN, AND CHILDREN AND TO ENSLAVE LITTLE GIRLS FOR SEX THEN YOU CAN NOT CALL ANY OTHER RELIGION ON PLANET EARTH VIOLENT.

   “Deaf, dumb and blind, they will not find the path.”

   Now to summarize the challenges you will endlessly evade:

   1) FIND A SINGLE VERSE IN THE QUR’AN THAT COMPARES EVEN REMOTELY TO NUMBERS 31.

   2) FIND A SINGLE VERSE IN THE QUR’AN THAT INSTRUCTS AMERICAN MUSLIMS TO WAGE WAR AGAINST THEIR NON-MUSLIM NEIGHBORS.”

   Note, how he left the first part out? Telling, indeed. This verse from the Bible is most appropriate here:

   “And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother’s eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?”
   [Matthew 7:3]

   For the millionth time:

   IF YOUR BIBLE SAYS GOD COMMANDED THE HEBREWS TO SLAUGHTER MEN, WOMEN, AND CHILDREN AND TO ENSLAVE LITTLE GIRLS FOR SEX THEN YOU CAN NOT CALL ANY OTHER RELIGION ON PLANET EARTH VIOLENT.

   Old Testament:

   “AND THE LORD SPAKE UNTO MOSES, SAYING, AVENGE THE CHILDREN OF ISRAEL OF THE MIDIANITES: afterward shalt thou be gathered unto thy people. And Moses spake unto the people, saying, ARM SOME OF YOURSELVES UNTO THE WAR, AND LET THEM GO AGAINST THE MIDIANITES, AND AVENGE THE LORD OF MIDIAN.”
   [Numbers 31:1-3]

   This genocide, slaughter, rape and child sex slavery was the order and command of GOD HIMSELF according to the Bible.

   Furthermore, to say this was an act of the Hebrews themselves is ludicrous because the Hebrews displayed compassion and Moses REPRIMANDED them for it!

   “And Moses, and Eleazar the priest, and all the princes of the congregation, went forth to meet them without the camp. AND MOSES WAS WROTH (ANGRY!) with the officers of the host, with the captains over thousands, and captains over hundreds, which came from the battle. AND MOSES SAID UNTO THEM, HAVE YE SAVED ALL THE WOMEN ALIVE? Behold, these caused the children of Israel, through the counsel of Balaam, to commit trespass against the LORD in the matter of Peor, and there was a plague among the congregation of the LORD. NOW THEREFORE KILL EVERY MALE AMONG THE LITTLE ONES, AND KILL EVERY WOMAN THAT HATH KNOWN MAN BY LYING WITH HIM. BUT ALL THE WOMEN CHILDREN, THAT HAVE NOT KNOWN A MAN BY LYING WITH HIM, KEEP ALIVE FOR YOURSELVES.”

   New Testament:

   “And He said to them, ‘When I sent you without money bag, knapsack, and sandals, did you lack anything?’ So they said, ‘Nothing.’ Then He said to them, ‘BUT NOW, HE WHO HAS A MONEY BAG, LET HIM TAKE IT, AND LIKEWISE A KNAPSACK; AND HE WHO HAS NO SWORD, LET HIM SELL HIS GARMENT AND BUY ONE. For I say to you that this which is written must still be accomplished in Me: ‘And He was numbered with the transgressors.’ For the things concerning Me have an end.’ SO THEY SAID, ‘LORD, LOOK,HERE ARE TWO SWORDS.’ And He said to them, ‘IT IS ENOUGH.’”
   [Luke 21:38]

   And this is what the world has to look forward to when Jesus returns according to the Book of Revelation:

   “”And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war. His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself. And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God. And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean. AND OUT OF HIS MOUTH GOETH A SHARP SWORD, THAT WITH IT HE SHOULD SMITE THE NATIONS: AND HE SHALL RULE THEM WITH A ROD OF IRON: AND HE TREADETH THE WINEPRESS OF THE FIERCENESS AND WRATH OF ALMIGHTY GOD.”
   [Revelations 19:11-15]

   You can call Islam violent all you want. If, for the sake of argument, it is, then it is no break whatsoever than the norm found in the Semitic religious tradition of the Jews and their indiscriminate culling of civilians in the Bible and Jesus’ readiness to battle his Roman captors.

   Next, I’ll address the complete lies about the Qur’an posted in this maniacal blog entry shortly, God willing.

   Comment by philomantis | March 20, 2008 | Edit

1. Now, to address the complete wanton misrepresentation of the Qur’anic verses.

   Ben chose to conveniently ignore #1 of my challenge (FIND A SINGLE VERSE IN THE QUR’AN THAT COMPARES EVEN REMOTELY TO NUMBERS 31) and shamefully jump

   to #2 (FIND A SINGLE VERSE IN THE QUR’AN THAT INSTRUCTS AMERICAN MUSLIMS TO WAGE WAR AGAINST THEIR NON-MUSLIM NEIGHBORS). Dubious, but perfectly fine by me.

   To answer #2 of my challenge, Ben wrote:

   “9:123. O you who believe! Fight those of the disbelievers who are close to you, and let them find harshness in you, and know that Allâh is with those who are the Al-Muttaqûn (the pious - see V.2:2).”

   So this is a command that I, an American Muslim, should wage war on my neighbors? Let us look at the context of this verse from Chapter 9 (called “al-Tawbah”) starting with the very first verses!

   “This is a declaration of immunity by God and His Messenger from the polytheists with whom you had a treaty. You may roam freely in the land for four months and know that you can not beleaguer God and that he will cause the disbelievers to be defeated. This is an announcement from God and His Messenger to the People on the Day of the Pilgrimage that God and His Messenger are no longer obligated to the Polytheists. If you repent it is better for you. Yet, if you turn away then know that you can not beleaguer God, and let the disbelievers know of a woeful chastisement.

   EXCEPT for those Polytheists with whom you have a treaty and who did not violate the treaty in any way, and have not supported anyone against you. Continue to fulfill your treaty with them for its entire course, for God loves those who are pious.”
   [Qur’an, al-Tawbah 9:1-4]

   Okay, so this Chapter 9 is supposed to instruct me, an American-Muslim to wage war on my non-Muslim neighbors EXCEPT those who have no broken “the treaty”? What treaty?! So let me get this straight: As an American-Muslim I should read this verse and realize that God and His Messenger are no longer bound by a Treaty that was ratified in March of 628 AD and broken by the Meccan Polytheists in 630 AD? Wow, I’m confused….how exactly ON EARTH should I do that??

   Perhaps, the sane can see that this is talking about an ISOLATED INCIDENT 1400 YEARS AGO! EVERY verse about fighting in this Chapter is relevant to what it states at the BEGINNING of the Chapter: The Arabian Polytheist who violated the Treaty of Hudaybiyyah in 630 AD by attacking tribes that were allied with the Muslims of Medina. It has NO binding WHATSOEVER to any other circumstances outside of those.

   It is pertinent to note that unlike the Biblical Moses’ indiscriminate genocidal rape and pillage fest in Numbers 31, Muhammad is instructed to only fight those who fight against them and to immediately forgive them if they lay down arms:

   “But if they desist from violence, then God is Most-Forgiving and Most-Merciful. Fight until there is no more chaos and oppression and justice and faith prevail; But if they desist let there be no hostility except to those who are oppressors.”
   [Qur’an, al-Baqarah, 2:192-193]

   Finally, as a note I would like to point out that you will find the Evangelical Crusaders always quoting from the Saudi commissioned translation by Hilali and Khan which is severely scorned by Western Muslims for its inaccuracies and very biased hermeneutic translations. Aside from that, the English is so poor it is a burden to read. They quote it for these very same reasons.

   More, tarring and feathering of this hapless bigot afer lunch

   Comment by philomantis | March 20, 2008 | Edit

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